I'd wondered what happened to that double-signed . . .

Feb 11, 2015,08:57 AM
 

. . . Omega of yours; recall your initial posting several years ago, but it's never reappeared on our forums since, to the best of my recollection.  


Here's a manual wind cousin of your example . . . 




. . . that belongs to a friend of mine.  A few years older than yours, and similarly originally destined for American market, circa '46.  Lovely speckling pattern with no appreciable dimming of dial print; this is patina of the highest order.   

Of all the vintages in my collection, the best example is the '56 SM Calendar.




Here's a close-up sans crystal . . . 




. . . for clarity's sake, and a macro section of the dial . . . 





. . . culled from yet another image.

Art


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"Patina"...

 
 By: pplater : February 11th, 2015-01:59
Over coffee today, a good friend (who will be reading this) lamented that he had not seen many 'good' examples of patina. It may be hard to define, but we know it when we see it: that effect of ageing which enhances, rather than detracts. This was the onl...  
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In case of patina...

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : February 11th, 2015-02:52
there is big difference between brands in perception of it. Maybe the biggest in horological world Super cool Patina for brand xx watch is completely destroyed in need of service dial for watch from brand xy Cool subject mate Yours D
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Patina? LOVE PATINA! :)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : February 11th, 2015-03:22
Here are a few examples of "damaged" or "patina" dials.... Depending on your point of view! :) Best Blomman ...  
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No sure if this is appropriate......

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 11th, 2015-16:44
.....but I take my chance.... and please, don't shoot me, I am only the conveyor of my opinion;) The dial playing with the Toblerone is very attractive, the uniformity of the patina adds to the charm of this watch. Very nice indeed. (keeper as is) The dia... 
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It is very appropriate, Francois! :)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : February 12th, 2015-12:24
It just shows how different we all are and what we do or do not like in watches! :) When it comes to the Zenith S. 58 - I agree on the hands. That is very high up on my todo list for my watchmaker once he is done with some other engagements... As for the ... 
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Thank you for your kind reply Blomman....

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 13th, 2015-00:58
Wow! interesting the read that someone from Down Under is/was flooding the market with "NOS" parts!!!!!! For some reason, go figure why, if someone was offering me say, theodolite "NOS" parts coming from Bhutan.....I would be a tad suspicious;) I would ne... 
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Wow! to you and all the exhibitors.

 
 By: mkvc : February 12th, 2015-18:23
The only one that sticks out for me is the AP. For me, the only patina that works on a dress watch is a very slight, very even mellowing of the overall tone of the dial. In the case of a watch in the ultraluxury class, even that should be present only if ... 
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Those are all exceptional examples, blomman...

 
 By: pplater : February 13th, 2015-20:55
...of the 'range' of effects that may properly be termed 'patina', but the UG is stand-out! Thanks for showing. Cheers, pplater.
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Well, let's see what I have in stock. Because I have some stock!

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-03:33
Here is a small avant gout... ...  
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the deep sea

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : February 11th, 2015-12:27
is the only really nice one I have seen so far
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Thank you, Arie. But you certainly didn't see that many...

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-14:25
As I only saw let's say 5 for sale in the last 10 years ( European, of course ). Best, Nicolas
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(seen in this post)

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : February 12th, 2015-03:53
never saw one live
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would love that [nt]

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : February 12th, 2015-11:52
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just let me know

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : February 12th, 2015-12:02
and we'll have a drink somewhere nice while talking watches And I might visit Paris in the near future....as that Chronometre Bleu keeps on haunting me
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You are always welcome! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2015-12:08
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In my humble opinion.....

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 11th, 2015-17:02
The dial on the Rolex could do with a little help. However the JLC is superb and the Blancpain? well, mysteriously celestial!;) Cheers my friend Francois
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Stardust? :))) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2015-00:08
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Aaaah! Now! This dial is............

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 11th, 2015-05:48
an excellent example of a very attractive, a little mysterious and all magical "patina". Very nice indeed! Compare it to...... ...a dial which could do with some help;)......for my taste! Cheers Francois (my apologies for the size, couldn't scale it down)...  
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Here are a few examples that I quite like...

 
 By: Tony C. : February 11th, 2015-07:30
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Wow, the Scafograph and the Lip are to die for! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-14:28
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great examples, Tony

 
 By: RDL : February 13th, 2015-00:15
Tony, hope you are well! As always, an impeccable sense of aesthetics in both the patina and watches you illustrate! best
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Wabi

 
 By: Ubik : February 11th, 2015-07:52
Wabi-sabi ( 侘 寂 ? ) represents a comprehensive Japanese world view or aesthetic centered on the acceptance of transience and imperfection. The aesthetic is sometimes described as one of beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete". [ 2 ] It is ...  
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OMG. One of these three is my grail. I think you know which one.

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-07:57
I have several grails, though, and you own some of them, my good friend.... ;) Best, Nicolas
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You own a whole armful of my grails Nico.

 
 By: Ubik : February 11th, 2015-10:26
Actually make that two armfuls. Thanks my friend.
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Armful or harmful? ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-10:33
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Wabi-sabi!........

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 11th, 2015-23:33
Oh, I like that, the balance of aesthetic tranquility, the dignity and grace of time past. Very nice. Cheers Francois
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I'd wondered what happened to that double-signed . . .

 
 By: Dr No : February 11th, 2015-08:57
. . . Omega of yours; recall your initial posting several years ago, but it's never reappeared on our forums since, to the best of my recollection. Here's a manual wind cousin of your example . . . . . . that belongs to a friend of mine. A few years older...  
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Judging for what I see every time...

 
 By: Subexplorer : February 11th, 2015-11:57
... I view myself in a mirror, Time is more generous with objects than with Humans! Lol! My beloved objects I collect -like vintage watches, vintage pens or vintage folding knives- seem to get older with much more dignity and beauty than how I grow old! L...  
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Wow, the GP Chrono is topissimo, amigo mio. How big is it?

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-12:00
37 mm? Un abrazo, Nicolas, salivating.
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Dear Abel, what have you been hiding from us...?! ;)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : February 11th, 2015-12:35
My friend, please come over to the North part of our forum and present your GP beauty in more details! :) Best Blomman
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Thank you my my dear friends Nicolas and Blomman...

 
 By: Subexplorer : February 11th, 2015-13:26
... for your kind and enthusiastic comments about the GP monopulsoir chrono! Nicolas: the case is 36 mm diameter and got a Valjoux GHT22 inside, circa mid 1940´s. Blomman: Lol! ... Not hidding it ... Lol! ... I have presented it here at the GP forum on Ma... 
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You should show it more often! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2015-13:38
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This thread is developing nicely!...

 
 By: pplater : February 11th, 2015-18:50
With all of these great examples mounting, shall we turn it into something like the weekly wristscan? Ubik : would you accept the role of nominating the most 'wabi' piece, in your view? Nico : would you accept the role of nominating the equivalent of the ... 
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Ah! I would be very honoured Pplater.....

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 12th, 2015-00:35
....even though I had in mind to live a little longer;) as my idea of a nice "patina" may draw some heated disagreements! The "perfect patina"? I don't think so, but aesthetically pleasing? certainly! Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there m... 
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Merci, mon ami... [nt]

 
 By: pplater : February 12th, 2015-03:40
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It is ok for me. Eitan ( Ubik ), are you in? [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2015-05:52
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Merci aussi, mon cher confrère... [nt]

 
 By: pplater : February 12th, 2015-05:57
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may i join the Patina Party........

 
 By: EdwardL : February 11th, 2015-23:00
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Thanks Nico. Your words always means a lot to me. NT [nt]

 
 By: EdwardL : February 15th, 2015-21:06
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Feel free to post more pics of this beauty! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 15th, 2015-22:41
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. . . and the Beatles thought . . .

 
 By: Dr No : February 12th, 2015-06:02
. . . they were the Fab Four! I'll take your Omegas, any day ;-) . . .
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LOL!!!! Thanks Art. You are so kind. NT [nt]

 
 By: EdwardL : February 15th, 2015-21:15
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Some say: "Praise for Patina is the Rationalisation....

 
 By: MTF : February 12th, 2015-00:39
"Praise for Patina is the Rationalisation of Rust or the Mitigation of Mould." It should not be the raison d'absolution from the care and cost of restoration. Age is not an excuse. This is an example from 1788...... People have looked after it with care f...  
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Aaaahh! Very much agree with that statement:) [nt]

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 12th, 2015-15:50
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Well said....And well cared for...

 
 By: tick tock doctor : February 12th, 2015-20:10
Kind regards ...  
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Dual Time or Resonance?

 
 By: MTF : February 13th, 2015-20:55
tick tock doctor Dual Time or Resonance pocket watch? ;) What a name on the dial! Regards, MTF
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Only one oscillator, Dual time. But, love the dial. [nt]

 
 By: tick tock doctor : February 14th, 2015-16:08
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A favourite Omega

 
 By: SteveW : February 12th, 2015-23:55
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Gorgeous! The watch, of course, and the way it aged. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 12th, 2015-23:57
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Were you finally able to track down . . .

 
 By: Dr No : February 13th, 2015-10:27
. . . an original Omega dial for your Dad's chronometer, Steve, or is this another watch altogether? Cordially, Art
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Wow...

 
 By: SteveW : February 13th, 2015-12:23
... that's quite a memory you have! I'm approaching an age where I visually have to write a note to remind me to put on my socks in the morning. This is a different watch. I decided however much time and money I spent on my Dad's, it wouldn't make it the ... 
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good patina

 
 By: RDL : February 13th, 2015-00:19
in my view are these ...  
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Who will disagree, here? Superb, my friend. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 13th, 2015-00:28
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Wittnauer patina, if I may...

 
 By: Ano Nuevo : February 13th, 2015-11:12
I picked this one up at Christmas, because I thought it was a charming deco-flavored watch. It has, i believe, a Revue 73 movement. The watchmaker guessed it's from the 1940s. I especially like the A-shaped crystal, which casts a nice prism-caused light r...  
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Super, superb two tone dial. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 13th, 2015-11:15
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One more . . .

 
 By: Dr No : February 16th, 2015-12:00
. . . for the road. I didn't really consider this one to qualify as the gold dial hasn't aged much to the naked eye, but after taking this image . . . . . . I'm not so sure. Minimal vs maximal patina could be the subject of another thread. ...  
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Ok, then one more for the pleasure.This one will make a lot of cry...

 
 By: amanico : February 16th, 2015-14:17
;) ...  
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Another example of minimal aging . . .

 
 By: Dr No : February 16th, 2015-20:47
. . . which is even less common with black dials. Crying a river, Art
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;) I was sure you would like this one. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 16th, 2015-22:43
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Very harmful watch [nt]

 
 By: Ubik : February 17th, 2015-00:36
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Your Chrono version ain't bad, either! :) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : February 17th, 2015-00:40
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It is our curse to be defined

 
 By: Ubik : February 17th, 2015-01:01
by what we don't have, rather than what we do. Or is it our blessing!
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As Jamaicans use to say: " Grass is greener in the neighbour's garden ".

 
 By: amanico : February 18th, 2015-13:52
Not sure about my source, though... ;)
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Isn't that true? Their grass is greener! [nt]

 
 By: Ubik : February 19th, 2015-08:40
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I will check that asap. ;)

 
 By: amanico : February 19th, 2015-08:43
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Ageing like a great Ch. d'Yquem!...

 
 By: pplater : February 17th, 2015-19:29
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And you know the best thing? It is a watch from 1958! ;)

 
 By: amanico : February 18th, 2015-13:53
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You really know how to hurt a guy!... [nt]

 
 By: pplater : February 18th, 2015-15:52
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I didn't say nothing, Your Honor.

 
 By: amanico : February 18th, 2015-22:42
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late to the party

 
 By: eterna-fan : February 20th, 2015-15:33
but a few decent members of the patinated league: ...  
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