Interesting responses

Dec 30, 2008,09:42 AM
 

I don't think Patek is trying to emulate a Rolex sport watch with the Nautilus, but it is always interesting how a Nautilus thread turns to criticism of these models as sport watches.  Also interesting how the thread turns toward criticism of these models since they are not quite a 5070, 5146, or another more complicated or elegant that are so-called "classic" Pateks.

I would argue that the Nautilus is a "classic" Patek.  Been around for over 30 years, a design which has well stood the test of time and only has gotten better.  Anyway, I would suggest discussing these watches in their proper context.  Patek has a good description--"casual elegance."  I would wear my 5711 for just about anything--casual or elegant.  Would I wear it scuba diving?  Probably not--but not because it would not stand up, but probably because I would feel better wearing a $5K watch for that purpose than one that costs $20K.

Great to have a Submariner and a 5146 in a collection along with a Nautilus.  If I could only have one it would definitely be a Nautilus.  Of the line I have come to appreciate the simple and classic 5711 most of all.  Though I would not mind a 5980..........


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honest opinions about 5711 (pro's/con's)

 
 By: rijowysock : December 28th, 2008-12:48
most know me for being very anal when looking into details/etc.. curious to those that have had the chance to fondle a 5711.. what your opinions were... meing being an audemars person first and foremost i immediately relate it to the royal oak date (not o... 

I did not realize

 
 By: JerryW : December 28th, 2008-15:22

many commun points with the royal oak...

 
 By: kkhazen : December 28th, 2008-17:18
... beside the hands and the brushing of the case, the main common point is how genta succeeded in doing a timeless design. Main problem of the 5711 is that the 5712 looks so much nicer, makes the 5711 looks dry and boring. If we want to be picky, the ear... 

to open the watch [nt]

 
 By: kkhazen : December 29th, 2008-04:43

I liked the 5711

 
 By: JerryW : December 28th, 2008-20:32

5711 look nice and easy.

 
 By: Krieng : December 28th, 2008-23:06

5711 more comfortable

 
 By: docbchan : December 28th, 2008-23:19
While they look similar, 5711 wears more comfortably than 15300. 15300 however has a better looking movement. Both great watches to have but there is a significant price difference to consider....  

You asked to be blunt...

 
 By: mac_omega : December 29th, 2008-01:50
Please do not understand my answer to be offensive - I just want to be honest as you asked for! I would not buy a Nautilus at all - IMHO these sports watches are not real Pateks - they are just attempts to cover the sports watches segment in the market. W... 

Took courage to say that, but you are spot on

 
 By: Clif Watkins : December 29th, 2008-20:10
Nautilus and Aquanaut are a feeble attempt at a sports watch, totally not in keeping with what made PP famous. As such, there are more of a beginners Patek for a fickle collector market that is getting bludgeoned vlauewise as of late. If you must get a Na... 

Interesting responses

 
 By: tahoeblue : December 30th, 2008-09:42

To be even more blunt...

 
 By: Scribe : January 2nd, 2009-00:04

Amen !

 
 By: WatchFan1 : January 3rd, 2009-23:50

I have a 5711/1A

 
 By: mec : December 29th, 2008-08:31
as displayed in "docbchan's" e-mail above. In fact, I sold the very same AP in that e-mail and then purchased the 5711. I found the AP RO to be rather uncomfortable while the 5711 to the contrary is quite comfortable. It doesn't matter how beautiful a wat... 

Ok buddy I will be very blunt

 
 By: tourbillon001 : December 29th, 2008-20:18
The 5711 will keep you excited from the moment you walk into tilted Kilt, until our cute little waitress brings your third sprite, then you will tell me how boring the watch is and the search will be on again. Face it Riley, you are Mr. catch and release.... 

How about this one

 
 By: precisiontiming : December 30th, 2008-05:23

Simple & pure

 
 By: small-luxury-world : December 30th, 2008-09:02
that´s why I really like the Ref. 5711 and love the Ref. 3700. 3712 & 5712 - the dial is just to busy for me. The cal. 240 is great, but I would prefer it in another watch. Anyway, I love this kind of subjective "discussions". LOL Oliver