Baron - Mr Red
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i remember the story well....
Feb 24, 2017,05:40 AM
....i think it went something along the lines of "old school" British tradition. Blue or grey suit....no alternative but black leather shoes. Brown shoes? European not British. Its the British class system...we invented it to discriminate against people who look like us.
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Patek 5070P and 5370P...i would say more like cousins than brothers
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-04:04
Many similarities, but also many differences. Manual wind chrono. 41mm v 42mm. Platinum. Both beautiful. But I would say cousins rather than brothers. I didn't have much opportunity to take pictures of the two together. Both now sharing the same safebox f...
an early impression....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-04:14
....at 41mm, I thought it would wear quite big given its depth. I have a small wrist, but the shape of teh case cushions the watch superbly. Just 1mm smaller than the 5070, but it feels almost like a 39mm watch. Very very easy to wear.
Both are fantastic
By: dr.kol : February 22nd, 2017-04:22
but naturally, 5370P is the chronograph all others are compared to. Best, Kari
I think there is a nice symmetry to the two
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-04:31
I think that the differences are enough to make them very complimentary. The enamel dial does make a big difference to how the two watches appear on the wrist. I must check, but I am not sure if this is the only black enamel by Patek ever??? It creates a ...
True.
By: dr.kol : February 22nd, 2017-04:56
Patek had/has some other black enamel dials but naturally very limited. Patek often emphasises how special the enamel dials are. However, UN came out with a bunch of watches with enamel dials and that makes me wonder a bit. Best, Kari
To be fair.....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-04:44
.....before i tried yours, I was concerned about the size and how it would wear for me. Once I tried yours one, i became convinced of the watch. I wore my own for two weeks....i couldn't take it off!!
indeed.....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-04:44
...impossible to rank....just nice to compare the differences of which there are many.
ahhh.........
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 22nd, 2017-05:52
......i have some news for you there.....i am getting my original request.....it is coming. Farewell shiny.
A great pair.
By: brandon1 : February 22nd, 2017-07:16
Can\'t wait for your review! Thank you for sharing! Bravo, Brandon
Very nice
By: charcoal6666collector : February 22nd, 2017-07:22
Wow that 5370P goes perfectly with the shiny black leather strap with red stitching, giving it a more sporty touch, may i ask is it custom made?
great shot
By: Ryan5446 : February 22nd, 2017-07:23
beautiful watches
That's a very appealing shot
By: Mark in Paris : February 22nd, 2017-07:48
and would make me want to build a chronograph collection. There is also a significant interpretation difference on the movements' side. Two parts of Patek's craftmanship and know-how. I'm thinking about many interesting watches to get in the future, WT, c...
How true and wise.
By: zabreg1 Mr White : February 22nd, 2017-09:01
But, as long as we treat them as queens, they LET us get away with a lot...
Two collection stoppers........
By: watch-guy.com : February 22nd, 2017-10:32
But I see them as the two old uncles of the family Everyone loves them but they are hard to get hold of- if you understand my drift Congrats again on a top class collection Julian
Thanks Julian
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-02:32
I worried that I would see them as too close....but the reality is anything but. Same DNA, but very different exposition.
Vintage or modern?
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-02:50
Patekova, Thanks for clarifying the black enamel. I just couldn't think of one! You pose an interesting question on vintage versus modern. I suspect that across my collection, I own maybe 20% modern and 80% vintage. Within Rolex, I think i ended with a si...
and of course....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-05:56
....you highlight a not insignificant factor.....price! 2499 would be lovely, for sure, but in a world where I have more projects than i do cash, the 2499 must be ignored! I would say that the area of perpetual chronograph is one where I will focus a lot ...
this sings to me a lot....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-06:39
.....yes The 3450 is rarer and with the leap year indicator....but one of the things I love so much about the 3448 is the purity of the dial. I find the leap year indicator a distraction from one of the things I love on this genre. Hence, my love is 3448 ...
Two superlative watches
By: tahoeblue : February 22nd, 2017-22:18
I usually have a strong preference for 38-40 mm. But I have to say the 5070 case is maybe the best ever constructed, even at 42 mm.
yes....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-02:51
....i think i enjoy that 38-40mm range as optimal. In the case of 5070, i agree with you that the case is simply one of the best. It makes the watch. I would also say that the 5070 does not wear "small" for its 42mm either. The 5370 at 41mm does wear "sma...
thanks Keks.....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-04:26
...i am very happy not to have to choose.
on your pics 5070P is blurred, 5370P is clear...
By: Fricks : February 23rd, 2017-09:49
... and 5070P still looks better to me. If i had to compare them : Dial : IMO Black is too hard of a color, stiff, "inflexible", especially the enamel black which maybe is as deep as a black can be. It doesn't let you "capture" it, contrary to a Matte bla...
on your last point...am working on it!!!
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 23rd, 2017-11:00
Comparing the two is hard. I will evaluate along the same lines as you.... On dial, the blue of the 5070 is spectacular. I agree with you that it is one of teh best blue dials they have ever done. Yet, a pure black enamel is also spectacular. It is as dee...
You are so convincing...
By: Fricks : February 23rd, 2017-12:00
.... you dragged me to your point of view. Indeed, the black enamel carries something magic and mysterious in the deepness of the black and the texture of the enamel. Even if i like the blue color, we got to admit that its a draw here. As for factor X, to...
i remember the story well....
By: Baron - Mr Red : February 24th, 2017-05:40
....i think it went something along the lines of "old school" British tradition. Blue or grey suit....no alternative but black leather shoes. Brown shoes? European not British. Its the British class system...we invented it to discriminate against people w...
hahahaha...
By: Fricks : February 26th, 2017-08:56
... and it worked
An excellent Chrono duo! :-)
By: GLau : February 23rd, 2017-10:14
How does the 5070 black dial compare with the enamel black dial of 5370? Cheers, Gordon
You know, Joe...
By: TheMadDruid : February 23rd, 2017-15:59
if these two have sex you'll have one hell of a Fly-back!
Two astounding watch cousins!
By: patrick_y : February 24th, 2017-12:43
All I can say is that I like this photo very much! And as a big fan of the 5070P, I can only hope to be able to acquire one someday...