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Jan 02, 2014,03:02 AM
 

hello ian, so you had the chance to use one the greatest camera, the LEICA S. this is a famous professional one, wich provides DNG files, as well as RAW. these files have to be adjust in prostproduction with photoshop, lightroom or capture one for example. you know, digilux 4/5 or 6, same as nicolas, should be better in that case! kind regards. olivier

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The JLC Duometre Unique Travel Time with its competitors A comparative review

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-03:00
My first idea was to compare the latest Duometre UTT with a travel watch I own in my collection, and which I love a lot, the Patek World Time, reference 5110P. Launched in year 2000, the Patek World Time ref 5110 has been a reference in this complication,...  

That reads like an epic battle between major forces.

 
 By: Ruckdee : December 25th, 2013-03:49
It is interesting how you can force yourself to compare two beloved watches in such an objective manner. I am sure anyone who is considering both models will benefit immensely from your writing. You asked for thoughts and here are mine. I have no personal... 

We all have our favourite complications, Ruckdee.

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-08:31
I can understand that a Travel Watch is not a priroirty for those among us who are not frequent travelers. On another side, are we fascinated by complications we only use? For example, how many of the Chronograph fans use this complication? As for your qu... 

You made a good point. Yes, I am fascinated. That's why I read...

 
 By: Ruckdee : December 25th, 2013-17:57
...your original writing so thoroughly and tried to scrutinize the details of these watches in my mind :D Will show this thread to a friend who is considering both the Patek Worldtime and the Duometre with moonphase. He is a frequent traveler and may be i... 

;) Thank you, Ruckdee. Your friend should see it in the real life....

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-22:50
It is much better. Best, Nicolas

Thank you for this great review...

 
 By: social : December 31st, 2013-03:38
...that deeper my understanding to these two unique pieces! Thanks so much for your effort!

This is a review to top all reviews!

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 25th, 2013-04:11
Firstly, thanks for doing it as it is a theme I am looking at in some detail for 2014. Second, thanks for being so meticulous in your analysis and producing a review that will no doubt be extremely helpful to so many looking at these wonderful watches. I ... 

about 10 mins ago...yes!

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 26th, 2013-06:44

Its true...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 26th, 2013-08:53
.....i am somewhat larger than when we last met!

Well, you can. ;)

 
 By: amanico : December 26th, 2013-09:10

A brilliant review , thoroughly enjoyed it

 
 By: Miranda : December 25th, 2013-06:05
My humble world time And my two time zone I'm happy with these Have a great Xmas ! ...  

These are two icons, in the travel watch world...

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-08:34
This is undisputable, and I greatly agree with you, as you well know. But the Duometre UTT has to write its own history, to become an icon. No doubt it has some strong assets, for that purpose. All the best, my dear friend. Nicolas

I knew that emotionally you wanted the JLC

 
 By: 4Js : December 25th, 2013-06:15
And, your analytical side took over to contemplate how to reconcile that you NEEDED both! :) Your effort was meticulous and fair! So, is the deposit down? PS: I caught a glimpse that now you have also reconciled that you need the black dial Duometre Chron... 

As for the deposit, well, I hope to be able to do it.

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-08:37
The problem is that I realized that I " needed " both Duometre, the Black Chrono, and the UTT. Funnily, because I have the Patek Competitors ( the 5070 and the 5110P ) Thanks for reading, Joe. It is up to me now, to ask you the same question: Are you in? ... 

A stellar review.. Of marvels, similar at first sight but quite different in reality ! ..

 
 By: hs111 : December 25th, 2013-06:56
Again a very nice read - did this twice already and was thinking through your hypothetical examples, which was great, to follow the thoughts, your thoughts.. Also - for completeness sake and helpful as well, you balanced beauty vs function, and concept vs... 

Your bases are pretty well covered with such watches, hs.

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-08:40
You have to be mad about this complication to go deeper in the theme... As for your question, yes, both the 5130 and the Duometre UTT, in the same version, in white gold, are approximatively in the same price range, the Patek being 4 K Euros less expensiv... 

Another great review Nico!

 
 By: Mike H : December 25th, 2013-13:59
Another superb review of yours that I read with great interest, many thanx Nico! And as Ruckdee very well put it "an epic battle between 2 major forces". But even if the score is very tight (I accept the verdict of your fierce battle) I must say that, to ... 

There are several things I must precise....

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2013-14:10
If we are talking about Charm, the 5110P is a clear winner. Not that the UUT lacks charm; but the 5110P is playing on another league. I will repeat it once again, but when I saw the first official press release, the UTT let me totally cold. I can also con... 

What a review

 
 By: Seeks : December 25th, 2013-22:51
HI Nicolas, This must have taken you quite a bit of time for this review. Much appreciated and great pics. Perfect for the holidays when some of us have the luxury of time to read. Many thanks :) The duometre movement has a warm mesmeric charm ...  

Yeah, this old one

 
 By: Seeks : December 25th, 2013-23:50
Yes, the old Quantième Lunaire, which is often a daily wear for me. The foudroyante reminds me to keep meetings short - time is moving! :) It follows me to quite a few events too UTT - I must admit I didn't warm up to it at the beginning, partly as I do n...  

The " own time " concept is great.

 
 By: amanico : December 26th, 2013-00:01
Therefore, the Travel Time is important if you have friends, clients or partners all over the world, and that you want to contact at some time. I often use my travel watches for that purpose, by the way. And to tell you all, a Travel Time, Wrold Time or G... 

Heh. Those would be a great trio to own - agreed :)

 
 By: Seeks : December 26th, 2013-06:06
Plus they would be all be daily wears! Kind regards.

Happy, very happy to see that you are a Duometre Fan, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : December 26th, 2013-06:20
This is the most interesting family of products, at JLC, in my opinion. Best, Nicolas

re: comparative

 
 By: DRMW : December 26th, 2013-14:40
Excellent read Nico, you bring some valid points! -MW

the duometre looks like a beast...

 
 By: futoshita : December 27th, 2013-00:46
... beside the worldtime but these are 2 stunning and gorgeons beauties I will take the time today to read your review conscientiously with a lot of greed and lust thank you

What a battle royale!

 
 By: fernando : December 27th, 2013-02:58
Surely you haven't made it any easier for us to pick a winner. The only solution, for lovers of such a complication ..... is to get both. :) I wouldn't discount the TZ either. An excellent & enjoyable read - many thanks for a superb effort! There shou... 

Comparative posts are always more interesting, I find.

 
 By: amanico : December 27th, 2013-05:47
A tad more difficult to write, but more interesting, at the end; to better appreciate a Watch. Yes, getting both is the solution. And even more, if you keep in mind the one which started all, the Rolex GMT Master. Best, my friend, and thanks for your kind... 

i said i would respond...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 27th, 2013-12:02
First, i will say that my view concerns just the Patek and JLC. I have never had the Lange. Journe or Parmigiani on my wrist or even seen in the flesh. So......5110 vs UTT? The size of the two watches makes a difference to me. The Patek is much closer to ... 

The Patek World Time is indeed an horological monster, a milestone.

 
 By: amanico : December 28th, 2013-04:06
The Duometre is an icon to become, I strongly believe that. I quite love your conclusion, my friend. They are so diffrent and so complementary! Best, Nicolas

Great review,I needed time to digest after the panettone..

 
 By: moc : December 30th, 2013-07:36
The UTT is 'unique'like its name,so no its not a world time per se ,but a very clever tool to tell time somewhere else in the world(or your own time too..) Clever and sophisticated like a real Duometre should be. Great way to end this year…. By the way,th... 

Yes, there will not be another white metal UTT.

 
 By: amanico : December 30th, 2013-07:39
Colored gold is in the tube. ;) Best, and thanks for reading, Mo. Nicolas

An excellent review

 
 By: ianny : December 31st, 2013-08:49
I travel up to 50% of the time in my job and a good travel watch is vital to me. I've considered the PP 5130 but found the dial too busy for me, and I can imagine dial legibility would be a problem for me during long haul flights when cabin light is dim. ...  

Your first picture is sublime. What a superb background.

 
 By: amanico : December 31st, 2013-09:03
Thanks for your input, Ianny! Best, Nicolas.

yep, it depends always on the size of the captor'...

 
 By: OlivierT : December 31st, 2013-09:39
happy new year guys, seeing pictures made by a "S" will be always a pleasure. knowing SOHNE could be a part of the 'state of art', using a "S" complete the way of life of a gentleman. Congrats Ian. Olivier

Hi Oliver

 
 By: ianny : January 1st, 2014-05:14
As explained to Nico, the photo was taken for me at a Lange/Leica event. It was of course taken with a Leica camera but to be honest, I was a bit disappointed with the result. I just think it's a bit too dark for my liking. Please enlighten me. Regards, i... 

what a chance

 
 By: OlivierT : January 2nd, 2014-03:02
hello ian, so you had the chance to use one the greatest camera, the LEICA S. this is a famous professional one, wich provides DNG files, as well as RAW. these files have to be adjust in prostproduction with photoshop, lightroom or capture one for example... 

Hey NIco

 
 By: ianny : January 1st, 2014-05:05
Thanks but this shot was NOT taken by me. LOL. It was taken for me at a Lange/Leica event held in Singapore last year (May 2013). And I have no clue why it is a sublime shot because it looks a bit dark to my untrained eye. Regards, ian

The composition and the light are great. Peaceful, calm, relaxing.

 
 By: amanico : January 1st, 2014-05:07
Very inspired! Best, Nicolas

Very late to the party with this response...

 
 By: Echi : February 13th, 2014-00:31
But then again, this was a monster of a post which I only had the pleasure of re-reading today! I think that the UTT occupies a special place for the world traveller. I am reminded of that time when you posted a series on the Tribute Reversos from awhile ... 

It was worth wiating to read your thoughts, Echi, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : February 13th, 2014-00:37
Very nicely put. I love your words! Best, Nicolas