JLC SIHH 2013: The Master Ultra Thin Perpetual 39.

Mar 05, 2013,22:17 PM
 



Quantiemes Perpetuels and La Grande Maison... This is a long love story.

Before unveiling the all new MUT 39 PC, let me invite you to a brief journey into time.

A journey which started circa.... 1890, with the Calibre 19RMCSQ, or 10 years later ( 1903 ), the Cal 17 JVBQP.

The Calibre 19/20 RMCSQ in this Grande Complication Pocket Watch ( 1895 )





Another Grande Complciation Pocket Watch from 1928:



With its fabulous movement, the Cal 17 JSMCCRVQ:



Another nice Perpetual Calendar from 1934:



In our modern days, Jaeger-Lecoultre re introduced the perpetual calendar complication in the late Eighties... 1987, to be precise, with two models which will pre figure the richness and the amazing diversity of the collection to come.

A simple perpetual calendar, the Odysseus, animated by the Cal 889 / 440, a module developped by IWC, while the movement was made at the Grande Maison.





An interesting particularity of the Odysseus QP is that there is no pusher to set the perpetual calendar datas.

Yes, this is the unique modern perpetual calendar from JLC whose informations can be set from... The crown!

The Grand Reveil, which associates an alarm to a perpetual calendar, which is logical, as Perpetual Calendars and Alarms are two specialities from the Grande Maison, was unveiled in 1989, and discontinued in 1997.





Two pictures ( dial and back side ) of the Cal 919:





The Cal 919 is a heavily modified Cal 916 ( Alarm ) with a QP module.

The Odysseus is the elder brother of the Master Quantieme Perpetuel, which saw the light in 1996, while the Grand Reveil gave birth to the Master Grande Memovox, in 2000.

The Master Quantieme Perpetuel ( Picture borrowed to one of us, but I can't remember who, sadly, for the credit )



The Master QP was in production till 2005. Its 37 mm case was welcomed by connoisseurs.

A dial and a movement which were close to the Odysseus, obviously ( Cal 889 / 440 / 2 for the Master QP ).

The Master Grande Memovox:





The Master Grande Memovox had a 41, 5 mm case, more conventionaly shaped than the Grand Reveil, whose movement was an evolution of its elder brother ( Cal 919 for the Grande Memovox ).

It was replaced in 2005 by the... Grand Reveil, whose design was more modern looking, with an interesting combination of " Alarms " ( vibration AND / OR Alarm, at your choice ), and a bigger case ( 43 mm ).

The Grand Reveil ( Cal 909 / 1 )



That is far from being all...

In 2004, Jaeger-Lecoultre had the excellent idea to couple an eight days movement to the perpetual calendar.

The famous Antoine Lecoultre 8 Days Perpetual Calendar:



Which came in a superb skeleton version, 3 years after ( 2008 ) :



This is an excellent association because an 8 days movement will allow you to not wear your watch for a while, WITHOUT having to set all the datas of your perpetual calendar, each time the movement stops.

These 8 Days Perpetual Calendars ( Cal 876 ) are housed in a 41, 5 mm case, in platinum or in rose gold.

Here, the Cal 876 in its skeleton version:



An 8 Days Perpetual Calendar we saw, revisited, in 2011, in a smaller case ( 40 mm ), available in stainless steel or rose gold. ( Same movement, Cal 876 ).





The Perpetual Calendar has also been included in some " high end " creations from the Manufacture.

The Master Grande Tradition Tourbillon Quantieme Perpetuel, in 2009:



Which is a " simple " tourbillon and a quantieme perpetuel watch, animated by the automatic movement Cal 987.

A Master Grande Tradition which was improved in 2013 for the Jubilé Collection, with a flying tourbillon and a cylinder shaped spiral ( Cal 985 ) in a new case, still in 42 mm.



If we go deeper in the madness, we have to mention two awesome perpetual calendars, here.

The Gyrotourbillon one, released in 2004:



43 mm of dream, gathering a retrograde perpetual calendar, an equation of time, an eight days power reserve and a spherical tourbillon.

The Cal 177 of the Gyrotourbillon One:



And, of course, the epitome of the Grande Complication, the Hybris Mechanica à Grande Sonnerie ( 2009 ), including, among other things, a flying tourbillon, a Grande, Petite Sonnerie, Minute Repeater and an instantaneous perpetual calendar...



The Cal 182 and its 1600 parts:



Jaeger-Lecoultre is not the Grande Maison for nothing...

For those who prefer a perpetual calendar in a rectangular watch, the alternative exists.

From the " simple " Reverso Perpetual Calendar released in a limited series of 500 pieces, in the year 2000 ( Cal 855 )



To the enormous Reverso Grande Complication à Tritpyque ( 2006 ), here in an elusive white gold version ( credit picture: Antiquorum ) including the perpetual calendar to a zodiacal calendar, an equation of time, and a flying tourbillon:



We can seriously say that no other brand than JLC can offer such a diversity in the expression of the perpetual calendar complication.

Once that being said, let's now have a look at the all new offer from the Grande Maison, the MUT Perpetual Calendar 39

For those who felt the nostaly of a simple, sober and small perpetual calendar as the Master Perpetual Calendar was, they will be happy to see this new offer.

I/ The case:

You will immediately recognize the case of the MUT Moon 39, which was warmly in 2011:



And of the MUT RDM, introduced in the catalog in 2012:



A case which cannot been seen as Ultra Thin, to say all, but of an undisputable elegance.

The MUT Perpetual 39:



Not an ultra thin case, but slightly thinner than the MUT Moon 39 and the MUT RDM 39, by the way.

Indeed, the MUT Moon is 9, 9 mm high, the MUT RDM is 9, 85 mm, while the MUT Perpetual is 0, 65 mm thinner than the RDM.

We are far from the figures of the other perpetual calendar brother, the Master Eight Days Perpetual 40 ( 40 mm diameter / 12, 84 mm thick ).

The slim bezel, and these willowy lugs are contributing to the beauty of this case, whole profile is a big part of its charm:



Another nice detail, the bevels on the lugs, as you can see on the photo above.

The see through case back, held by 4 screws, let show the movement, the Calibre 868:



At 7 o'clock is located the pusher, which will be used to set all the datas for the perpetual calendar: Date, Date, Month, Year, and Moonphase.

II/ The movement.

The Cal 868 is an automatic movement, made of 336 pieces, with 46 jewels, and offering a power reserve of 43 hours, and is a tad thinner than the Cal 925 of the MUT Moon 39 and the Cal 938 of the MUT RDM 39 ( 4, 90 mm in both cases while the Cal 868 is 4, 66 mm high ).

Which may partially explain why the MUT Perpetual 39 has a slightly less high case...

The Cal 868 in its elegant environment:



III/ The dial.

Or should I say the dials, as we have several versions, here, with dedicated dials.

> White Gold case=Silver grained dial, with applied black nickel indexes.

> Rose Gold case=Eggshell dial, with applied polished gold indexes.

And... And... A first on the Net,

> Stainless Steel: Silver sunburst dial, with polished rodhied applied indexes.

The dial borrows a simple design, for a perpetual calendar, which serves the purpose of legibility, a main purpose for such a complication.

Here, all the functions are displayed in a clean and classic way.

The " danger zone " which shows when you should NOT set the date of your watch ( between 10 PM and 4 AM ), is discretely located just above the axis of the hands.

The hands which are empty at their base, to allow you to see the danger zone indicator, when they are somewhere between 10.55 and 1.05 o' clock. Smart. And discrete.

The eggshell and the silver sunburst finishes are well known, for JLC fans, but the grained silver dial is much more uncommon, and very pleasant to see.

Here they are.

- The White Gold:









- The Stainless Steel:









- The Rose Gold:







IV Conclusion:

Mechanically speaking, the MUT Perpetual 39 is not a revolutionnary watch. Its modular conception is well known, the date always changes at around 3 AM, details which are well known by the JLC aficionado.

An effort has been made to reduce the height of the movement, to fight against thickness, which is a good point.

The layout of the perpetual calendar is a classic and won't disorient those who loved the Master Perpetual Calendar which was born in 1996.

Its legibility is undisputable, too, and the grained silver dial is an interesting novelty, in terms of look and finish.

Here is a side by side shot of the stainless steel and white gold version:



The really good idea is to have associated this dial and this movement in such a beautiful case, which I prefer to the Master 8 Days Perpetual 40.

Moreover, it is also a wink to the History of the Manufacture, whose other speciality was and still is Ultra Thin cases, even if we can't considerer the MUT 39 Perpetual as an Ultra Thin watch.

The retail being around 16 000 Euros for the SS version, and around 30 000 Euros for the White Gold and Rose Gold models, we can say that it is an interesting solution for all those who are in the search of a nice, serious and well made perpetual calendar, without having to sell the house.

A smart offer, which will be available worldwilde, at the JLC Boutiques and ADs, at the exception of the stainless steel version, which will be reserved to the Boutiques.

Looking forward to reading your thoughts and comments,

Best, Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2013-03-05 22:19:08 This message has been edited by amanico on 2013-03-09 01:49:33


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Beautiful...

 
 By: MervC : March 5th, 2013-23:26
I think JLC will sell a ton of these, chiefly because there is stainless steel version. For both the WG and SS version: I think the watch face will be more legible if the sub-dial hands are blued instead of silver colored.

SS

 
 By: ingmar : March 7th, 2013-06:20
I couldn't agree more. When I saw this and realized there was a stainless version I was both surprised and pleased. I think JLC is one of the few makers that realize stainless is a choice for some. It is for me at least. If only there was a boutique near ... 

Buying a watch during a trip has an extra flavour, ingmar.

 
 By: amanico : March 7th, 2013-06:39
Thanks for your input! Best, Nicolas

Agree on the blue hands

 
 By: vlkcheng : March 6th, 2013-04:06
Still one of the best looking and legible perpetual calendar out there. Well done JLC.

I agree - visibility not good

 
 By: cazalea : March 9th, 2013-08:30
Hands just need to be darker for contrast. I\'d want the yellow gold for that reason.

Thank you Nicolas

 
 By: Dje : March 5th, 2013-23:55
Hi my friend, Here they are finally. It was clearly my watch of choice at the SIHH this year. The stainless steel version is now on top of my wish list. I won't get any watch this year, but in the future I hope so..... In fact the only competition could c... 

Well, the White Gold dial was not ready when we were in Geneva, Jerome.

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-04:25
I discovered the white gold version one week ago! Yes, one of the clear successes for JLC, this year, I am ready to bet on that. Best, my dear friend, and thanks for the kind words. Nicolas

Thank you Nicolas for this very nice review......

 
 By: Sandgroper : March 6th, 2013-00:06
I really like the White Gold version due especially to the dial and the legibility which as you say is undisputable thanks to the dark hands. Very elegant watch and at 39mm instead of over 40mm very smart from JLC in my opinion. Cheers. Francois

We are never happy. ;) I would have loved a ss case with the wg dial.

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-04:29
Or the SS version, with a black dial... Seriously, they are beautiful as they are, and I deeply think that it is a good move from JLC. these UT cases are sublime, the size is restrained as well as the price ( SS version ), the dial is a classic of the kin... 

It is too late now to change the dial of the SS, of course....

 
 By: Sandgroper : March 24th, 2013-05:20
But perhaps JLC could change or give as an option to change the silver hands on the SS for Blued hands! Then the SS is a killer! The reason been, it is quite hard to read the time from silver hand on a silver dial. I know as I have a Master Perpetual 37mm... 

Great stuff

 
 By: rnaden : March 6th, 2013-00:15
I like the understated beauty of these complicated marvels. And the fact that JLC has decided to make it available in SS is a bonus as I'm not a big fan of precious metals on my watches. Definitely will be looking out for these. Thanks for the well writte... 

Moreover, after reading your introduction and looking at...

 
 By: Sandgroper : March 6th, 2013-00:21
your pictures, how could someone not be in total admiration to the achievements of JLC. JLC is really La Grande Maison, awesome! Cheers. Francois

Thank you Nico,

 
 By: dr.kol : March 6th, 2013-00:48
it is a beautiful and very readable watch. There are some more inspiring perpetuals in noble metals but the SS version is among the very best or perhaps even nicest SS Perpetual I know. Will it really be available only from the Boutiques? Best, Kari

It's a pity

 
 By: dr.kol : March 6th, 2013-04:17
because a kind AD is giving me minus 25%. Should I buy that watch then from a Boutique? Something to think over... Best, Kari

That's good and bad - also from JLC's perspective

 
 By: dr.kol : March 6th, 2013-06:06
When more and more pieces are "Boutique only" at least I would be very upset if I were an AD. I would try to sell other brands that are more AD Friendly. JLC can never open Boutiques enough to control the whole production. I fully understand the benefits ... 

Quite a complicated matter. In this specific case...

 
 By: axel : March 7th, 2013-14:23
the situation makes the pink gold version more interesting because the SS version gets almost no discount from boutiques while the PG should be purchasable for less than 20k Euro (if the list price of 25.6k is confirmed) from ADs, pretty near to the SS ve... 

Wonderful review! Very interesting readings.

 
 By: social : March 6th, 2013-01:25
Wonderful review! Very interesting readings. Thanks so much for writing.

Grandissime!!!!

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : March 6th, 2013-01:31
Absolutely amazing work that you've done Thank you so much for this perpetual love story Seminal post my friend Damjan

Sweet heavens. Proper, refined and yet functional.

 
 By: Ruckdee : March 6th, 2013-02:07
I don't think any encouragement is needed for a JLC fan looking for a classic perpetual calendar watch. This is it. I, on the other hand, can be satisfied by the significantly more affordable MUT 39 Moon if I were to buy a piece this dressy. Thank you for... 

MUT Moon, MUT Perpetual, Master 8 Days Perpetual, and the latest Master Calendar...

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-16:23
There is a great diversity, from the simplest to the most complicated. Each of these is a good choice, within everyone's budget. Or taste... Thanks for your input, Ruckdee. Best, Nicolas

I forgot to line the current models up in my mind. Yes, you are right.

 
 By: Ruckdee : March 6th, 2013-18:51
The current line-up also merits a post of its own when you return home? Much like what you did with this series of perpetual calendar watches? Ruckdee

Very interesting that JLC has decided to make the SS boutique only...

 
 By: apropos : March 6th, 2013-04:43
...interesting because that means that they will be able to lock down the price on SS models, which will traditionally sell the most!!

Just Curious

 
 By: 4Js : March 6th, 2013-04:56
Why did JLC elect to launch now versus at SIHH? I had posted on another post to you that the piece was showing in the iPad app, but not released at SIHH. And you responded with a wink!! No matter, your post was welcome news this morning, and as always a f... 

For different reasons.

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-16:26
JLC wanted to launch it at the beginning of this year, during a Trip in the US... Which had to be postponed. Hence the IPad App, which showed it. Yes, see them in the flesh, you will appreciate them even more. I have no doubts about that. Best, Joe, and t... 

Wasn't the IWC perpetual module introduced in the 'Lyre' line before 1987?

 
 By: Clavi : March 6th, 2013-05:39
I thought that the 'Lyre' line was released before the Odysseus, and there was definitively a Lyre Perpetual Calendar (which imho was much better looking that the very 80's dated Odysseus) This Lyre Perpetual is actually a nice looking watch by todays sta...  

LOVE the white gold dial...

 
 By: watchme : March 6th, 2013-06:40
almost wonder if JLC was thinking about making that a "Boutique Only" version of the steel, initially. I'm glad to see JLC offering 18kt white again, which was almost eliminated after 2006 from the general core items (exceptions being "haute de gamma" cre... 

You know that the story of this calibre is linked to an era where

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-16:34
JLC and IWC were very close... As fr the watch in itself, I too love al ot the dial of the WG version. Less understated than the SS brother, with more character, everybody will certainly have his own favorite. I appreciate a lot the return of a nice auto ... 

That 18kt Rose version...

 
 By: watchme : March 6th, 2013-06:46
which appears after the historical stuff, is going to have to either go back to the factory, or sit until Christmas, since the calendar is a year ahead. Pity. ;-) -Dean

JLC do it again...

 
 By: Andy : March 6th, 2013-09:14
a very very well priced perpetual..! The only thing I would like to see is a few more sporty perpetuals as I can only think of IWC and AP who do one that would fit that category. However a perpetual isn't really a sport complication but I would like one..... 

A gorgeous timepiece. The price of the rose gold...

 
 By: axel : March 6th, 2013-14:08
should be 25600, not 30000. Would you please kindly check and confirm, Nicolas? Maybe 30000 is the price of the white gold which is generally higher than rose gold. I plan to sell my MGUT 40mm and considering the rose gold version as an alternative to a L... 

Why the addition of the Corrector?

 
 By: aaronm : March 6th, 2013-14:22
I've always wondered why JLC removed the nice "adjust with the crown" feature of the Odysseus with the addition of a corrector... This new steel one is quite nice.... A

I asked and was told so it can be set faster.

 
 By: cazalea : March 9th, 2013-08:39
"Everything adjusted by the crown" was a goal Kurt Klaus said he set for himself, and admirably achieved, but! If an IWC stops, you have to move ahead day by day very tediously to keep everything in synch. My Perpetual had sat in a case or 8 months when I... 

I have forgotten to say...

 
 By: axel : March 6th, 2013-15:35
Thanks you for the excellent report, Nicolas.

Thank you for this wonderful article

 
 By: foowy : March 6th, 2013-19:11
I have always loved the Master Perpetual. A very functional and practical complication and the best thing I love about it is its legibility. Not many brands can achieve that. The only other one that does better (for me) is the Moser Perpetual. And now wit... 

It will come to your Boutique, without doubt. Let us know what you think, please.

 
 By: amanico : March 6th, 2013-22:48
Once you see it in the real. Best, Nicolas

Some gorgeous pocket watches

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 7th, 2013-06:13
I often think of these pocket watches as a very interesting alternative to wrist watches, especially in regard of the pricing compared to the complications. The 1928 one shows a remarkable case work and the dial of the 1934 is amazing. My fav among all th...  

Thanks for the wristshots, Mark.

 
 By: amanico : March 7th, 2013-06:43
And did you notice that the surface of the white gold MUT 39 Perpetual has a grained finish? I really like this version. Thanks for your valuable input, too. Best, Nicolas

Grained finish

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 7th, 2013-10:41
No I didn't notice, but indeed on the pictures we can see it a little bit. Certainly better looking.

great report, enjoyed the history! here's the SS on wrist...

 
 By: KStults : March 7th, 2013-21:08
what a delightful watch! ...  

first hand experience of this MUT Perpetual...

 
 By: FanFrancisco : March 13th, 2013-10:25
... just came back from the post SIHH 2013 event. have managed to try the WG version, feeling when wearing it on wrist was really pleasant. think it will be the top of my shopping this year :-) stefan

Aaah, you see! I told you! The SS version is very interesting, too.

 
 By: amanico : March 13th, 2013-10:48
Thanks for your input, my friend. Best, Nicolas

in love.

 
 By: tim_s : March 10th, 2013-13:06
this watch is absolutely stunning, no other way to describe it. I think the indices are some of the nicest looking i have ever seen! its great how JLC can make something this nice and keep the price at a sensible point as well. i really want this watch!! ... 

Thanks for your input, Tim.

 
 By: amanico : March 10th, 2013-13:39
I think you won't be disappointed by another part of the watch, the case, whose profile is just superb. Best, Nicolas

Nicolas, thank you for a fantastic report!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : March 12th, 2013-12:20
Looking forward to see this one in the metal! Best, my friend Blomman

The MUT Perpetual is extremely tempting

 
 By: nitediver : March 17th, 2013-00:05
Thank you Nicolas for another report in oustanding qualiity - it is simply great to see the "lineage" of the JLC perpetual calendars in so much detail. My feeling is that this perpetual calendar will find many friends. I am very fond of the relaively slim... 

The dial is one thing, an example of sobriety and classicism.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2013-00:10
De bon gout. But the case is the cake on the cherry. :) Spectacular in terms of elegance. I am sure it will be a hit, especially the SS version, which is correctly priced. Best, Nicolas

My thoughts

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : March 25th, 2013-17:06
Nicolas, another great post with much detail. Well done. How you manage to write such in depth posts and respond to all your Emails is really a mystery! ;) My thoughts: The stainless steel is very appealing with the gray dial. I like it very much. And €16... 

Thanks for your kind comments, Edmond. ;)

 
 By: amanico : March 27th, 2013-07:27
Let us know when you see it in the real! Best, Nicolas.