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JLC SIHH 2014: Grande Reverso Ultra Thin Night and Day.

Feb 07, 2014,08:42 AM
 

The Grande Reverso Ultra Thin collection / family is still growing this year, with two models: The GRUT1931 in rose gold with a chocolate dial, I already posted, and the GRUT Night and Day I am introducing right now.

Ultra Thin... I would rather call it flat than Ultra Thin, as the Watch in question is 9, 14 mm high, so almost 2 mm more than a GRUT 1931 Black, Red or Silver ( 7, 2 mm ).

But, there is a but, or 2 Buts, by the way....

The first thing to precise is that the height includes the case AND the carriage, as we are speaking of a Reverso.

You will tell me- and you will be right- than ANY Reverso has a case and a carriage. But we are far from a round case, or a rectangular one WITHOUT carriage.

The second " BUT " is more important.

The movement ( Cal 967 B ) is automatic, which houses almost 100 more parts than the Cal 822 of the TT Reverso 1931 ( 128 parts ), and which is necessarily a bit thicker than a manual " engine ". It is 4, 05mm high, and offers 42 hours power reserve. Not a new movement, but a Calibre which used the Cal 960 base.

The main idea behind this Watch is to complete the collection AND to offer something more, for those for who an automatic movement is an important criteria of decision.

This Watch will allow you to know if it is 10 AM or 10 PM, with the subdial and the hand located at 6 o' clock.

You will not be disoriented with the decoration of the dial, with the GRUT Night and Day, which is familiar with what we are used to see.

Now, the eternal question is to know in which metal you prefer it: The cold, understated but very elegant stainless steel, or the warmer rose gold?

The stainless steel version:





The definitive version:





The rose gold:



The definitive version:



And the side by side photo:



Looking forward to reading your comments and thoughts,

Best,

Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-02-07 08:44:51

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This is a very attractive model

 
 By: respo : February 7th, 2014-11:48
...with a useful indication. I do prefer the old style day/night indicator with the revolving disk revealing either the stars or the sun motif. I think that is just a bit more charming execution, but this version is more elegant and discrete, perhaps. Are... 

I think we can agree to say that above 4 to 5 mm, the UT " title is abused.

 
 By: amanico : February 7th, 2014-13:53
I do agree with that. And with the fact that even the TT Reverso 31 is not " more UT ", either. Flat would sound better. No pictures of the movement, nor of the case back, which is solid, in this case. Thanks for your feedback, my dear Respo. Nicolas

This is a beauty.. I like the night & day.. And wouldn't I be..

 
 By: hs111 : February 7th, 2014-12:58
.. happy with my old, classical size Duo- Face, (for 2 timezones plus Night & Day) , my Reverso Grande GMT, plus the TTR 1931 - it's something I might consider, in SS, of course.. The way things are now, I am still in a waiting loop, without anxiety. - An... 

Well, that is a good one for those who only " swear " for / by automatic movements.

 
 By: amanico : February 7th, 2014-13:56
I don't think it is one for those who already own a TT R 1931. Best, my friend. Nicolas

Great dials

 
 By: jml_watches : February 7th, 2014-14:52
Hi Have to say think the dials look fab - very Reverso. The pink gold model strikes me as having a very similar feeling to the the Art Deco GTof a while ago - even though I know there's no skeletonised movement. Think the solid back is good too. Cheers JM... 

As for case backs, I have a very personal position...

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-01:35
I don't think a solid case back is a good option in most of the cases. Only when there is something interesting to see. But as said, it is a very personal opinion. Yes, undisputably, this is a true Reverso. The very interesting thing is that, till now, wi... 

If only....

 
 By: rnaden : February 7th, 2014-17:44
and here's 2 IF's from me : 1. If it didn't look so much like my GT (which IMO with a manual movement is preferable) 2. I had larger wrists The grande reversos somehow has never sat well on my wrists. A beautiful watch though, although I think the word "a... 

Agreed on the unnecessary automatic mention...

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-01:38
As I previously said, I am not sure this new GRUT is for those of us who already own a Reverso... It may rather be an interesting offer for those who did want an automatic movement in a beautiful Reverso. Thanks for your feedback, Richard. Nicolas

A display back would have made all the difference (yes or no) for potential buyers.

 
 By: Ruckdee : February 7th, 2014-18:10
In my case, I feel that a look at the rotor while on the wrist (as with the Squadra Hometime) is quite interesting. But I understand as well the need of many buyers to have solid caseback. The people at JLC must have had this argument among themselves as ... 

A see through case back would also increase the thickness of the watch.

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-01:42
While it wouldn't be justified aesthetically speaking... But I hear your point, my friend. There is another interest for a solid case back: You can personalize it with some engravings! Best, Nicolas

A commercialy important watch for JLC + a wristshot

 
 By: foversta : February 8th, 2014-03:21
It is important for JLC to be able to release this watch, a lot of people are reluctant to handwind movements. It is nicely made, rather thin and the winding rotor is quite discreet. Here is a wristshot: Thanks for the article! Fx ...  

I agree. That is why I wrote that it was a smart offer from JLC.

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-03:28
Thanks for the wristshot! Best, Fx. Nicolas

The 960, IIRC....

 
 By: watchme : February 8th, 2014-06:14
First appeared in the Lady Master Control, back in 1992/3. Then, in 1999, the 960R appeared in THE FIRST AUTOMATIC REVERSO - the Gran' Sport Automatique (which won Armbanduhren's/Wristwatch Annual "Watch of the Year," a reader's pole conducted in Germany)... 

Aaah, for the 8 Days movement, give me a bit more days...

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-07:29
I will come back with something for you. ;) Best, Nicolas

I like this watch a lot, now when are you going to show the 1948....I'm waiting, impatient [nt]

 
 By: Miranda : February 8th, 2014-07:06

Soon, soon, my impatient Miranda. The pleasure is in the wait!

 
 By: amanico : February 8th, 2014-07:30

Re-posting as I previously posted in the wrong header...

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 10th, 2014-01:33
Why are there two headers for the same topic? Anyhow, the Stainless Steel for me but I have one question: is this a one sided dial Reverso? If so what is exactly the purpose of a night & day display? For people living in a place without windows? For p...  

No, not two headers for the same topic.

 
 By: amanico : February 10th, 2014-01:47
One header is on the Basel / SIHH forum, but not open to discussions, since there is a link to the JLC forum, where we discuss all the novelties. ;) Back to your question, now: What is the purpose of a day night indicator? It helps you to know if the time... 

Aaaah! Now I understand, forum open, forum closed..

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 10th, 2014-05:57
a little like traffic lights, they all look the same but one stops before some and speed up before others. OK, got it. What was it again, the strength of a mouse and the intelligence of a donkey? Well, anyway, to me having a day/night indication on a watc... 

Yes, you got the idea... ;)

 
 By: amanico : February 10th, 2014-06:02