An in depth view on the Hybris Mechanica 11 MUT Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon.

Feb 03, 2014,23:59 PM
 



I quickly introduced this Watch, just before the SIHH. It is now time to better understand it.

I first thought that a minute repeater is a challenging exercize, when it comes in an ultra thin case, as I had in mind the sound of these big and thick Pocket watches, rich, powerful, full of nuances...

In fact, I was wrong: The thinner it is, the better it sounds.

So, the choice of a flat case is rather rational. Still, it is not that easy to achieve!



Let's examine this watch under 6 different angles.

1/ The idea behind the association between a minute repeater and a tourbillon, and the interest of an ultra thin case, here:





When JLC decided to work on this watch, there was an empty space to fill in the Hybris Mechanica Collection: Indeed, there was no ultra thin watch, and as an Hybris Mechanica watch is necessarily special, it is better to work on something more than a minute repeater, only.

Though, is this a Grande Complication? Strictly speaking, no. But the association of a minute repeater and a tourbillon is, to say the least, quite prestigious.

There is another reason in favor of the choice of a tourbillon, with a minute repeater: Accuracy. And for Jaeger-Lecoultre, accuracy is now intimately linked to automatic movements, as an always wound movement offers more regularity all along the power reserve of the watch.

A tourbillon and an automatic movement is a winning cocktail in terms of precision, and the Grande Maison demonstrated that, not only with words, as the Master Tourbillon won the Chronometry contest, in 2009.



Therefore, there was no " Ultra Thin " " Grande Complication ", in the horological universe.

When you are looking after a dressy and complicated watch, you don't have any other choice than dealing with a big and thick case, from 14 to 20 mm high, such as the JLC Gyrotourbillon One and Two, the Spherotourbillon, the Reverso à Tryptique, the Vacheron Constantin Tour De L'Ile, the Patek Philippe Sky Moon Tourbillon and so on...

14 mm high is quite easily wearable, but try above 16 mm under the sleeve...

Is this the flatter Minute Repeater, by the way?

Jaeger-Lecoultre stated that the Hybris Mechanica 11 was the flattest... I had a small doubt, with the Piaget Minute Repeater " Emperador " and the latest Vacheron Minute Repeater Patrimony...

I checked:

The Vacheron Patrimony Contemporaine Ultra Thin Cal 1731 is 41 mm big, and 8, 09 high. It is a manual winding movement which offers the following functions: Hours, Minutes, small seconds, and minute repeater.





The Piaget Emeprador Minute Repeater is 48 mm big ( ! ), 9, 04 mm high, and adds the minute repeater to the hours and the minutes. The superb Cal 1290 is automatic ( micro rotor ).



So yes, the Hybris Mechanica is flatter, with a 41 mm big case, and 7, 9 mm high. Which is even more impressive with the addition of a tourbillon!

2/ The Tourbillon:

Here we have a Flying Tourbillon, which means that there is no bridge above the tourbillon.

It enhances the beauty, the magic of this horological sophistication. The Flying Tourbillon already saw the light in some JLC watches since 2009, with another Hybris Mechanica, the Grande Sonnerie, and in the Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication.

The Grande Sonnerie:



The Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication:



But there is another specificity, in the Hybris Mechanica, a first: The balance Wheel is flying, too.

The balance Wheel is, in fact, mounted on a ball bearing, which compensates the absence of the bridge, and allows enough resistance to shocks.

The ball bearing is fixed on one axis of the tourbillon cage.

As for the spiral, it has two terminal curves, one being fixed to the balance Wheel, the other being attached to the fixed part of the tourbillon cage.



This solution has been chosen for two reasons:

- A flying balance wheel is 25% thinner than a conventional one, which is important when flatness is an important factor.

- Aesthetics: Nothing disturbs nor hides the view on the entire balance wheel.

One last detail you cannot ignore when you look at the tourbillon: Its heated blue spiral.

3/ The Rotor:

In the Hybris Mechanica 11, the movement is automatic, which is not that evident due to the original location of the rotor.... Hidden Under the dial, and not covering the movement, as it is usually the case.

The segment is in platinum, fitted with a ceramic ball bearing mechanism.

Here again, as for the Flying balance wheel, two reasons can justify such a choice:

- JLC wanted to avoid some more thickness of a rotor ON a movement.

- This original solution allows to admire the nicely decorated movement.

4/ The Minute Repeater:

Three important détails are to be underlined:

- The Minute Repeater of the Hybris Mechanica 11 lies on the association of the Trebuchet System, which appeared in 2009, in the Hybris Mechanica à Grande Sonnerie, and in the MGT Grande Complication, and the gong, welded to the sapphire glass, which was first used in the Master Minute Repeater, since 2005.

A close up on the Hammers and the gong:



Compared to a Master Minute Repeater, the volume has decreased ( 65 Db versus 72 Db ) but the sound has substantially increased in term of richness, from what I was able to hear on the prototype which is impressive, already.

- The PUSH BUTTON has been preferred to the conventional trigger, for some aesthetical reasons. And it is a fact that this solution is more discrete. I am not sure it is a first, as I am wondering if Audemars Piguet didn't choose this for the Jules Audemars, but JLC did it in a different way.



Indeed, if you push on the locking system, located at 8 o'clock, to activate the minute repeater, the push button at 10 o' clock will disappear in the case.

Moreover, this system ensures a constant distance... Clever, smart, astute.

- The system also reduces the traditional timeout between the minute repeater activation (when we push on the button) and the striking of the first hour. In this case, as soon as the minute repeater is activated, the hour is struck. And, when there is no quarter, the minutes are, immediately after the hour(s), struck.

Example: Here, there is a long silence to go from the hour to the minute ( How the classic system reads 1.06 ) :

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Now, the Hybris Mechanica system reads the absence of the quarters ( Now, the new system reads 1. 06 this way ) :

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The minute repeaters lovers will appreciate.

5/ The movement, Cal 362, is 33, 3 mm big, and relaitvely thin, with a height of 4, 8 mm, for such a complicated AND automatic Watch.

Yes, automatic, the movement is, as JLC opted to locate the rotor under the dial.

This way, it won't hide the nice decoration of the movement, made of Maillechort, finely decorated with Cotes de Genève and anglages.



Dial side:



Back side:





There was no other possibility to locate the rotor under the dial, as the gong is in the back side, at the place the rotor turns. So, the place is already taken.

The gong, and the rotor:



The movement is made of 471 parts, offers an autonomy of 45 hours, and beats at the pace of 21 600 vibratinos per hour.

There is a nice detail to be mentionned, about the movement: The two hammers, which are put in a symmetrical way, a nice reminder of the Lecoultre Pocket watches.

6/ The dial:

Sobriety, distinction, class. The silver grained finish of the dial is very discrete, which contrasts with the tourbillon at 6 o' clock, and the circular " Windows " all around it, giving some life, animation, when the rotor moves.

The long Dauphine hands, and the slender baton indexes already seen in the 2013 Jubilé collection, complete this quiet decorum.





Conclusion and thoughts.

The Hybris Mechanica 11 is a brilliant horological exercize of style, undisputably.



Sophisticated, mechanically, it demonstrates, with brio, that an automatic movement can be nice, interesting, appealing.

Surprising, because I think we were many to not expect that kind of new opus, form The Grande Maison, I mean, a high end automatic movement, and a claibre with such specificities, mainly the location of the rotor under the dial.

Aesthetically,at first glance, it looks cold, it takes time to appreciate its understated appearance, while it is all about class, distinction.

A bit like a poetry from Stephane Mallarmé. Not easy to get, immediately, it requires efforts and time.

But the more you look at it, the more you hear it, the better you understand what Hybris Mechanica truly means.

The test in the real allowed me to get some answers:

- Will the rotor not be too audible? I could hear it, on the prototype, but JLC told me that some silent blocks will be put on the definitive Watch.

- Don't you feel the rotor when you wear the Watch? Not that much, I must say.

- Does it sound great? It is hard to definitely say, as I heard the prototype, which is already promising. JLC will still work on the regulator, to make it more silencious, even it is is already more silencious than on the Master Minute Repeater.! I dream of the day I can compare the definitive Watch with some repeaters from Patek I was not able to listen to, till now, or with some of the best créations from Audemars Piguet.

But I have no doubt that JLC wants to release one of the best sounding minute repeater, and will do.

Now, that last creation raises a question: Is the future of JLC Automatic?

I would not mind if we see such a " Vallée de Joux " decoration in future automatic movements!

To be followed!

Nicolas. February 2014. This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-02-04 00:01:59 This message has been edited by amanico on 2014-02-07 07:02:12


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A rest review on JLC prima ballerina for 2014

 
 By: moc : February 4th, 2014-00:55
A great "exercise"as you said. At first a bit disappointed about a tourbillon in this exquisite minute repeater,but then after the live experience I understood the complexity of such an incredible interpretation. I was often wondering if I would prefer it... 

No doubt this is an important watch

 
 By: Asimut : February 4th, 2014-01:08
both to JLC and to the world of horology. Luckily, i had the opportunity to see and hear it in Geneve and I agree with all of your points, it sounds very promising. I think the solution to the delay of absent quarter hours in MRs is brilliant and AFAIK ha... 

The rotor noise is still on work...

 
 By: amanico : February 4th, 2014-07:57
JLC already found a technical solution for that. Silent blocks. Like in cars! It would not be tolerable to have such a Watch " woooobbling " when the rotor moves, would it? Still some improvements on the minte repeater, and I can't wait to hear the final ... 

That is a very fine review .. Of a sophisticated, eclectic watch..Fascinating & Compelling

 
 By: hs111 : February 4th, 2014-02:09
., was specifically intrigued by the combimed MR Sound System ( Trebuchet & gong), as well this unobtrusive view on the spiral and movement, and last but not least - the elegantly back and forth circular "swinging" through the peripheral windows on the di... 

Again a nice proof (if needed) of JLC mastery

 
 By: Mark in Paris : February 4th, 2014-02:28
This is a very nice exercize, which comes out of all the tourbillon and MR that brands can produce today. More is not always better. They tried here to bring something interesting while dealing with difficulty. To me, the work is totally coherent and uniq... 

Thank you, Nicolas for a great report! :)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : February 4th, 2014-03:08
Must say that so far - this is my favourite MR from JLC. There are a couple of design points I would perfer not to be included... Will look at / read your report a few more times before commenting on these. Best, my friend Blomman

Masterful post for masterful watch

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : February 4th, 2014-03:56
Something to re-read and re-discover over and over again as our dear friend blomman said there are some points with design In my case only one regret and that is "windows" on the dial without them it would look way much better for me but hey you can't sat... 

!i was not very enthusiast with these windows, but

 
 By: amanico : February 4th, 2014-10:47
When you see the rotor moving, that is somewhat fun, and living. Yes, indeed, this is tough to please to everybody, but it would be boring if so... Best, my dear Damjan. Nicolas

Interesting, Damjan.. I do like these windows, where you see the back& forth movement..

 
 By: hs111 : February 4th, 2014-11:52
..somehow nifty, I felt But : " Chacun á son gout " All the best, hs

again..great reporting..

 
 By: ocwatching : February 4th, 2014-13:08
I am kinnda in the same camp as Damjan...the windows on the dial.. I understand the rotor and bring "life" to a dial..but the tourby is already there.. however, I have always loved minute repeaters with the JLC MMR as my grail... the elimination of the br... 

I have now read and re-read your report, Nicolas...

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : February 5th, 2014-11:03
Q? What is the size of this watch? Did you write it and I missed it..?! As for the rotor - I think it is a brilliant solution - love the open case back and the decoration on the bridges! But, I would have prefered smaller "holes" in the dial, or maybe onl... 

You missed it. 41 mm big, 7, 9 mm thick. ;)

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-11:25
You have to see it in the real, you will have a better idea. Now, as for the Tourbillon, I am not a big fan of that sophistication, so I can undertand your feeling, here. But an Hybris Mechanica has to offer more than one complication to deserve such an a... 

You really know how to break down difficult matters into...

 
 By: Ruckdee : February 4th, 2014-03:21
...more easily digestable chunks. But praises aside, I must ask you one thing. I had to google the word "Maillechort" and what it seems to means is "nickle silver". Would you confirm this as correct? The level of finishing on this piece is awesome, the an... 

Yes, nickel silver.

 
 By: amanico : February 4th, 2014-14:07
The fact that we are in the market or not, for this Watch, is not the most important, indeed. The mastery, the maturity we can see through this Watch is to me the key point. I am just impatient to test, aesthetically and acoustically, the definitive Watch... 

Thank you.....

 
 By: Archy : February 4th, 2014-03:47
...for a great report on a lovely watch!

Thank you!

 
 By: Tim_M : February 4th, 2014-04:47
Nicolas, Thank you for your outstanding overview. While all of the Hybris series watches are packaging marvels, this one seems to stand apart as the most impressive union of mechanical complexity and packaging prowess. Not only a worthy JLC Hybris, it's t... 

Interesting thougths, Tim.

 
 By: amanico : February 4th, 2014-23:13
This first step of an automatic movement in a high end JLC is something to be noticed, and I wonder if it is a new tendance, as I wrote in my original post. Now, I am pretty sure that some of the solutions used for the HM 11 will come in more affordable w... 

Speechless! Can you hear me say something?....

 
 By: Sandgroper : February 4th, 2014-05:08
No, I have to type:) Nicolas thank you very much for this review, absolutely fantastic. This watch is phenomenal, not only it is superb in its aesthetics and, like you wrote Nicolas the more you observe it, the more you appreciate it, it's like a slow "ly... 

Thanks, Nicolas

 
 By: respo : February 4th, 2014-05:38
For this terrific review of an interesting watch. Best, respo

Thanks for a great review

 
 By: schopfer : February 4th, 2014-08:43
Wonderful review, and just an absolute superb watch. I think the dial isn't "cold" at first glance at all though. There is something about that grained finish that I think really makes it special. Thanks for giving us the more in depth details. Mark

My pleasure, Mark. Like you...

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-02:09
I am a BIG fan of these grained dials. Best, an thanks for your feedback. Nicolas

Fantastic Nicolas, thanks ....

 
 By: Maricost : February 4th, 2014-10:20
for your passion and competence. In any case .....this is a WATCH!!!

Question on the Balance...

 
 By: aaronm : February 4th, 2014-10:22
From the pics, it looks like the spring is attached to one of the arms of the balance wheel and the collet, is that accurate? In that case, is the shaft of the balance wheel fixed, holding the bearing for the balance wheel, instead of being linked to the ... 

Yes, one end curve is attached to the fixed part of the tourbillon cage.

 
 By: amanico : February 4th, 2014-10:27
You saw it well. Best, Nicolas

So if they can do that for one balance wheel...

 
 By: aaronm : February 5th, 2014-06:39
There's no reason they can't have 2, counter-rotating balances on the same shaft. That's resonance for you! A

Balance "arbor" is not actually arbor but a part of a tourbillon cage

 
 By: izatis : February 5th, 2014-01:18
Brilliant idea! By the way, is there the same kind of balance wheel that we can see in Gyrotourbillons? I mean Gyromax type and 18K gold as a material. Thanks for very perceptual review, Nicolas! Vitaly.

Same balance wheel than in the Gyrotourbillon One and Two.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-02:50
Which are actually made of 14 K Gold. And yes, this is the same principle than the Gyromax, but JLC doesn't call it this way. Best, Nicolas

Thanks a lot, Nicolas

 
 By: izatis : February 5th, 2014-04:47
14K of course, it's my confuse )

Excellent review!

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : February 4th, 2014-11:46
Too pity I won't have the chance to see - and hear! - this watch personally. It appears to be among the finest examples of thin complications ever made. thanks for this wonderfully detailed review! Marcus

Holy Cow, Man, that's one hell of..

 
 By: elliot55 : February 4th, 2014-17:19
... a report. Just the stuff on how JLC did the gongs on that beauty is simply mesmerizing. What an amazing couple of pieces... and the macro shot of the tourbillon - Tres Magnifique. Have a great week, - Scott

You can say it this way. This watch is an amazing sum of details.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-08:15
Seeing and living the evolution of the Minute Repeater by JLC is really something. This " 11 " may be a milestone, and not only among JLC watches! Best, Nicolas

Thank you for yet again a great review..

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : February 5th, 2014-00:26

Thanks for looking, Hans.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-09:50

Thanks for the review of an amazing watch.

 
 By: rovermark : February 5th, 2014-02:06
I would love to get the chance to see one of these in person. I have to admit I'm not in love with the cutouts on the dial though. Specifically I wish the tourbillon wasn't visible from the front of the watch.

You will have the chance quite soon. At the BH Boutique.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-02:08
This is a Watch to see and better, to fell, in the real. Best, my friend! Nicolas

I have nothing more to add...

 
 By: tudorctin : February 5th, 2014-06:21
Extraordinary watch! At this level and taking into account the price JLC doesn't need LE. I hope they will not "re-issue" it in LE in a different metal (see Master Minute Repeater). Thanks, Constantin

I hope so! There were too many different Master Minute Repeaters.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-10:40
JLC has indeed to work on " Exclusivity ". No messing with that. I strongly agree with you. Best, Nicolas

great review

 
 By: donizetti : February 5th, 2014-09:29
thank you so much. I really like the ultra thin minute repeater concept, hope they will make a watch without the tourbillon in the same way sometime! Best regards Andreas

Maybe later we'll have something like that.

 
 By: amanico : February 5th, 2014-22:43
No doubt that some of the HM 11 détails will be seen in watches to come. Thanks for your feedback, Andreas. Best, Nicolas

JLC Minute Repeater Tourbillon A great detailed look at a great development, Nico. (more)

 
 By: ThomasM : February 7th, 2014-00:55
The Jaeger LeCoultre JLC ultra thin Minute repeater flying tourbillon Hybris Mechanica 11 will indeed be a masterpiece, thanks for your in depth view. Dear Nico, I've already written some off the cuff comments - click here I'll try to come back with some ... 

My pleasure, Thomas. It would be interesring to hear your point of view.

 
 By: amanico : February 7th, 2014-06:01
As hoy had the opportunity to listen to many! Best, my friend. Nicolas

Thank you for the excellent review!

 
 By: jmpTT : February 11th, 2014-21:45
A very impressive addition to the top of JLC's range! A wearable masterpiece with nice modern touches, like the pusher lock and a bit of water resistance, is always pleasant to see. An automatic movement is an interesting distinction, but in this case the... 

Yes, an automatic movement can be " high end ".

 
 By: amanico : February 11th, 2014-21:49
High end AND original. We'll certainly come back to it with the definitive Watch. Thanks for your input. Nicolas