1959 / 2009, from the Deep Sea Alarm to the Navy Seals Alarm

Sep 21, 2009,04:16 AM
 



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The Deep Sea Alarm was the very first JLC Diving Watch, while the Navy Seals is the latest creation form " La Grande Maison ", as an hommage to this historic model, born 50 years ago.

The Deep Sea Alarm:

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The Navy Seals Alarm:

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Obviously, aesthetically and mechanically speaking, the Navy Seals Alarm may be considered as a kind of reincarnation of the Deep Sea Alarm, an original Diving Watch offering the combination of an Alarm into a Diving watch, with some improvements:

1/ Presented as a Diving Watch, the Deep Sea Alarm, strangely, didn't receive a turning bezel ( !!! ) .

2/ The bezel didn't resist to Time, because it is very fragile.

3/ The minute and hour hands ( at the exception of the pointed skeleton ) weren't very legible as wells as the second hand.

4/ The Deep Sea Alarm didn't get screw in crowns, and its water resistance was limited to 100 Meters.

5/ The movement of this very first JLC Vintage Diving watch, the Cal 815, an automatic one, with this delicious bumper system, was not as modern as the one used in the later Memovoxes ( E 870, E 875, Polaris II, for example ), with its bi directional rotor beating at 28 800 vibrations per hour for a better precision ( instead of the 18 000 vph of the Cal 815 ).

Let's see all these points and improvements in detail:

1/ Aesthetically speaking, the inspiration from the Past is noticeable.

And this inspiration can't be only summed to the Deep Sea Alarm, as we will see.

- The Alarm Disk, with the characteristic Triangle Symbol to set the Alarm Hour.

Here, on the Vintage ( European Version )

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And here, on the Navy Seals:

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On the defitinive Navy Seals Alarm watches, the wording is not engraved on the crystal ( as it was the case on the protos introduced in Geneva ), but located on the disk, as on the US Deep Sea Alarm:

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- The shape of the luminous indexes, which is very close to the european Deep Sea Alarm, although bigger and larger:

The Vintage:

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The Modern:

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Some exceptions, actually:

The Hour numbers didn't exist on the Deep Sea Alarm, but seem to take their inspiration from the Polaris, and look much bigger than on this last one.

Here, the Polaris:

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The Polaris, which clearly inspired the Designer of the Master Compressor Memovox.

You will notice the bigger ( and closer to the Navy Seals ) index and index numbers:

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- The Minute and Second hands are really specific to the Navy Seals Alarm.

The Minute hand, ending by a large arrow, is not a novelty for Jaeger Diving Watches, as you can see on these pictures:

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You will also see that the the end of the Second hand has a kind of ressemblance with the one on the Navy Seals Alarm.

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- The Date, located at " 3 ", which didn't exist on the Deep Sea Alarm.

- The Case is bigger on the Navy Seals, and thicker, too ( 44 mm instead of 39 mm, and I'd say 4 mm thicker ).

The shape of the Navy Seals Case is nice, although less elegant and original than the Deep Sea Alarm.

In fact, the N.S.A Case is closer to the Polaris ( in terms of volumes and shape ) than to the Deep Sea Alarm.

The case back on the D.S.A and on the N.S.A are both engraved, with a nice draw of a Diver in action ( D.S.A ) and the Navy Seals Symbol ( N.S.A, of course ).

The Case Back of the D.S.A:

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The N.S.A:

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2/ The Functionality:

From the very first JLC Vintage Diving to the Latest one, things have changed, not only on the aesthetical playground, or, let's say that these changes were made for some efficient reasons.

In fact, they were not any other solution, if you want to conceive a modern Diving watch, as some rules have to be respected.

- The Legibility has been dramatically improved, as shown above, by the use of larger indexes, and hands.

- The biggest flaw of the Deep Sea Alarm, its non turning and fragile bezel, has been solved, as JLC opted for a matt finished ceramic turning bezel, which is graduated till " 15 " for a more precise use in underwater conditions.

Let's add that the use of ceramic for the bezel is really interesting, as it is not only very nice, but it will also helps to avoid scratches, when its owner will dive with it.

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- The crowns don't have this special look anymore ( oignion shaped for the one located at " 2 " like on the Deep Sea Alarm ), but are using the Compressor Technology, firstly used on the Master Compressor Memovox, in 2002.

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How does it work?

When you turn the key in order to show the white arrow, it means that the joints are compressed, and that you don't have to fear any water resistance problem.

When the double red arrows appear, the joints are decompressed, and you'd better not manipulate the crown under the water.

Here, you loose in Beauty what you gain in functionality, obviously, as we don't have to forget that the D.S.A didn't have screw in crowns.

BUT, with these 2 crowns symetricaly disposed, the outcome is not ugly, and once again, reminds the original Memovox Look, in a more modern configuration.

I managed to take some comparison pictures of the Deep Sea Alarm and the Navy Seals Alarm, to enlighten the differences between these 2 watches ( Case and Crowns ):

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The Case back is screwed, and with the use of a sapphire glass, you will get a 300 meters Water Resistance, which is more secure than the Deep Sea Alarm ( 100 meters ).

The use of Titanium Grade 5 for the case will allow a gain of weight on the N.S.A, which is a good point on a 44 mm watch, and will protect it from some unavoidable scratches during water activities.

3/ The Evolution in Movement, or the Movements in Evolution?

Both!

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Since 1956, and the first introduction of an automatic alarm movement ( the Cal 815, followed 3 years later by the Cal 825, which is exactly the same movement, but with the Date function ) , there were some important improvements.

The Cal 815 was a 17 jewels 14 lines bumper automatic movement, beating at 18 000 vibrations per hour, with a hammer alarm which has an autonomy of 20 seconds, while the power reserve of the watch is around 45 hours.

Here, an " éclaté " of this movement, showing the bumper ( above, legend Nr 13 ), and the hammer ( down on your right, Legend Nr 6 ).

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And a picture of the assembled movement, now:

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The production of the Cal 815 ended in 1966, while the Cal 825 was discontinued in 1969, replaced by the new Cal 916, another 17 jewels automatic alarm movement .

Here no more bumper, but a 360 degrees rotor, suspended by ball bearings.

The Vibrations per Hour " climbs " to 28 800 for a better precision, while the power reserve of the watch and the alarm are basically the same.

Here, a picture of the Cal 916 showing the 360 degrees rotor and the ball bearings at its center.

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Produced till 1978, it may be considered as the " grandfather " of the modern Cal 918, born in 1994 and firstly housed in the Master Reveil before being used in the Master Compressor Memovox, with a big dfference, the sound of the Alarm, closer to a School Bell than a Cricket ( Cal 916 ) or a Frog ( 815 / 825 ).

The Explanation?

Let me quote the JLC Catalogue ( Edition 2002 / 2003 ) :

" The very pure chime, which sounds when the tiny hammer causes the gong suspended inside its caseto vibrate, is an exceptional combination of effectivenessand discretion.

Such sound quality rests on the discovery of a special alloy and the invention of a special shape for the steel gong... "

Here, a gorgeous pic of the Cal 918 ( Credit pic: Al )

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Then, last evolution, the Cal 956, which is developed from the Cal 912 ( Extrem World Alarm, introduced at the SIHH 2007 ), firstly housed in the Tribute To Polaris in 2008, and now, in the Navy Seals Alarm.

On the pics of the movement ( I have to thank my contact at the Manufacture, as I didn't find any picture of the movement, elsewhere ), you will appreciate the correct, honest finish that we expect from such a toolwatch:

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And a nice pic of the movement dial side, to be complete:

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The Calibre 956 features a suspended gong and a 45 hour power reserve, a variable-inertia balance beating at a frequency of 28,800 vibrations per hour, an oscillating weight equipped with ceramic ball bearings and a total of 268 parts.

Besides these numbers and characteristics, the interesting thing is that this movement offers some friendly improvements, as the quick set of the date ( Finally ! ), and a very musical Alarm, more crystalline than with the Cal 918.

Conclusion:

From their first steps in the Diving Watch World to nowadays, JLC continually improved their watches.

The weak points have been solved with a certain brio, lie the non turning bezel or the movement, to adapt the time keepers to an evident functionality.

The last opus, the Navy Seals Alarm, is a very good example.

The choice of materials like the titanium grade 5 for the case, avoiding a certain weight to this big watch, and the ceramic for the bezel, which makes it more resistant to scratches, contributes to the interest of this watch, whose originality is, again, to be an Alarm Diving Watch, faithful to what may be now called a Tradition at JLC.

Is this a perfect watch, so far?

In terms of legibility, and functionality, it is a very good watch.

In terms of aesthetics, I would have dreamt about a ceramic case, to make it even more bestial.

The Titanium grade 5 allows to wear it in different circumstances, and you can also play with the cordura leather strap, or the Nato, which are, to me, the best straps for this watch.

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The Nato is not a real Nato, as you don't have this double system which is just under the case back, so you will have to use a tool to change your strap, as you do it with any other watch.

But, you can hunt a real Nato quite easily..

The buckle on the Cordura strap is in polished Stainless Steel, which is a negative point, to me, as it mismatches with the titanium case, while the Nato strap receives a dark buckle...

In both cases, Cordura or Nato, the Navy Seals Alarm is very comfortable to wear, with a nice presence on the wrist:

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The good point is the very nice matt ceramic bezel, which nicely works with the whole watch, and this dark matt dial.

As for the compressor crowns, you like them or hate them, but in this case, they don't ruin the balance of the watch, as you only have 2 crowns.

Therefore, the rubber crowns offer a very smooth feeling.

In fact, the only controversial point, to me, is the writing, which was engraved on the dial on the prototypes, and which is now on the dial, on the definitive watches.

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The thing is that the writing will turn with the alarm disk, like on the Deep Sea Alarm US, as said above...

Even if the writing is done in a discret clear grey color, it may be disturbing for some people, indeed.

No watch is perfect, I think, and this Navy Seals Alarm doesn't make an exception to the rule, but, in my opinion, it is a good, lovely and pleasant continuation of the JLC Diving chapter.

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To be followed?

Best,

Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-09-21 04:17:37 This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-09-26 01:26:31


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Straight to my HDD

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 21st, 2009-04:22
What an effort! Thank you once more Damian

My pleasure, Damian

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-08:10
Not an effort, just pleasure, and a bit of time to prepare such a topic. But I thought that it may be of some interest. Best, and thanks, my friend. Nicolas

let me play the devil's advocate a bit

 
 By: time2tic : September 21st, 2009-05:13
[quote:amanico] The choice of materials like the titanium grade 5 for the case, avoiding a certain weight to this big watch, and the ceramic for the bezel, which makes it more resistant to scratches, contributes to the interest of this watch, whose origin... 

Well said, time2tic

 
 By: BDLJ : September 21st, 2009-21:57
You hit all the major points. The main thing is that this watch just doesn't quite hit the right buttons for me. I know JLC did dive-alarms in the past, but this seems to much of a mish-mash of their current watches. Then again, in the dive range of JLC, ... 

I think there is room ...

 
 By: time2tic : September 21st, 2009-23:58
for a modern divers watch designed with the purpose of diving in mind. Although it seems a road less travelled and probably slightly tougher, I think there are customers who would love to wear such divers watch eventough they do not inted to scuba dive mu... 

I believe Grade 5 Titanium is actually harder than 316L steel...

 
 By: Blue_Orca : September 22nd, 2009-07:30
I'm no expert, but on the web I found comments about Grade 5 titanium being "...substantially harder to work and/or machine than Grade 2 titanium. Most machinists rate this material as slightly more difficult to machine than T-316L stainless steel, and re... 

Great links to the titanium

 
 By: BluNotte : January 24th, 2010-16:26
Information! And btw, superb name you have there! love it! STephen

Response ...

 
 By: sw-rick : September 22nd, 2009-08:09
Reducing the thickness of the watch would not have helped to reduce the weight substantially if the case was to be made of steel as opposed to titanium. Remember that the 945 calibre with the gong needs space as well (just compare it with the polaris re-i... 

If I'd play the Demon's Advocate, I should say that

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-08:23
No mechanical watch can beat a Diving computer, or a simple Suunto. So, all the modern and Vintage Diving watches are to avoid, if you think this way. I disagree qbout titanium grade 5 as being less hard than the SS. AFAIK, it is really harder. Referring ... 

funnily enough,...

 
 By: time2tic : September 22nd, 2009-13:14
The point is not whether a watch can or could beat a diving computer, but one can take the shortcuts one likes. The point is more to design a divers watch faithful to its function. This function is something from the past, but watches can still be designe... 

Case size and WR...

 
 By: BDLJ : September 23rd, 2009-01:22
As usual, I find myself agreeing with your points. The biggest issue for me is that the huge cases are really not required for the WR boasts. I have very small, slim dive watches that are 200m ISO rated. I have seen G-shocks with pressed metal backs with ... 

we are on the same wavelength

 
 By: time2tic : September 23rd, 2009-12:33
and I continue to think that one model in the MC diving should/could integrate these comments. Divers would love that one. for those who can and/or want to wear a sizable watch there is plenty to choose from in the master compressor line.

Great Post Nicolas...

 
 By: david.graham : September 21st, 2009-08:04
Love these watches, especially the European DSA & the Polaris. I like the NSA, but not as much as the others. Thanks for posting David (Still hoping for a new DSA to be released at the next Basel Fair)

If you're waiting for the Basel Fair to see JLC novelties, David

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-08:29
You will see nothing, as JLC attends to the SIHH in Geneva, not to the Basel Fair. The DSA and the Polaris are now Cult Watches, and the NSA still has to build its own history, IMO. As for a new DSA, you have here an approach, an interpretation, not a re ... 

I stand corrected...

 
 By: david.graham : September 23rd, 2009-00:20
But you knew what I was getting at Monsieur Moderator!!! Yes, an all-new DSA, not a re-interpretation of the previous model. I'm pretty hooked on the Diving Chronograph and the EWC at the moment though! Cheers David

As well you should be, David...

 
 By: respo : September 23rd, 2009-11:38
...keep focused. LOL. respo

My sincere apologies...

 
 By: david.graham : September 24th, 2009-00:10
to all my outraged fellow forummers!!! lol Cheers David

nice review, excellent pictures ! [nt]

 
 By: foullis : September 21st, 2009-10:40
No message body

Thanks, as always, Milan.

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-08:30

A great post....

 
 By: MiniCooper : September 21st, 2009-11:08
as usual Thank you Cheers

Thanks for your nice words, as usual, Pink! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-12:34
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Nice educational post N!

 
 By: matrix : September 21st, 2009-11:20
Awesome pics and intro. I esp love the macro pics of its heart! B well my friend, Matrix.

Hey, Matrix

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-12:41
I think this is the very first time you see pics of the Cal 956. My contact at JLC had to take these pics to send them to me. Thanks for the nice comments! Best, my friend. Nicolas

Another great use of photos...

 
 By: nwp627 : September 21st, 2009-11:24
...and words to describe and compare two "distant cousins" related by blood and by history. Thank you Nicolas for a trip to the past with a stop-over in the present. N P.S. Thank you again for your timely advice.

Another link between the Past and the Present, indeed, Neil

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-12:44
I think it is always interesting to see the existing relations between some watches of the past and the current offer. It helps to understand the watch better, don't you think? Best, Nicolas PS: My pleasure. This message has been edited by amanico on 2009... 

What a review...and very nice watches too, by the way...

 
 By: cfn : September 21st, 2009-12:05
Dear Nicolas, Thanks for a great historical perspective on the NSA. Good to see that the family genes have been well transmitted down the line ;-) And congratulations on your own NSA. I guess that's the one you are wearing with the NATO strap. Best, Claus

Not already mine, Claus

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-12:58
But I'm waiting for mine to come in the very next weeks! I already love it, as it is another nice modern Diving Memovox. Not a perfect watch, but a nice one. Best, my friend. Nicolas

My thoughts as a NSA owner...

 
 By: Blue_Orca : September 21st, 2009-13:24
Nicolas, Thanks for the excellent review. I received my NSA about 10 days ago. Only got time to resize the bracelet late last week. Here are some pics I took after the resizing. For me, the watch is close to perfection. A very good balance between functio...  

Nice pics. Wear it in great health... [nt]

 
 By: matrix : September 21st, 2009-14:27
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Thanks, Matrix! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-12:59
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Congratulations!

 
 By: dxboon : September 21st, 2009-22:40
The NSA is a seriously fine-looking piece of wrist wear! I love it! Enjoy your new watch! Cheers, Daos

setting the alarm ...

 
 By: time2tic : September 22nd, 2009-00:00
it would seem easy to make the marks at 10 min intervals instead of 12. that would make setting the alarm with a 5min accuracy very easy (in fact, my small cheap good japanese alarm clock has such a scale). the devil is in the details....

A little request ...

 
 By: sw-rick : September 22nd, 2009-07:44
could you please try to take a picture of the backside of the watch, especially the part where the articulated bracelet is connected to the case. I am a little bit curious on the method of connecting the bracelet. Is it the regular spring bar which is als... 

Blue Orca, your answer shows 2 interesting things

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-13:38
1st, the watch sits nicely on your wrist, not too big nor thick. 2d, You took pics of the decentered writings on the Alarm disk. Pics that I forgot to take, and which are important, to see if it is really disturbing or not. Everyone will be able to make h... 

Better late than never...

 
 By: Maverik : January 3rd, 2010-04:54
... is a saying here in the Netherlands. You wrote your the post in September and only now I come with my compliments.... Nicolas, I must compliment you on this great post. It is a very insightful read about the great NSA model with a great historical per... 

You're too kind, Rik.

 
 By: amanico : January 3rd, 2010-05:05
It is somehow interesting to dig into History and to see how strong are the links between Present and Past. The Alarm is an historical complication, at JLC. An History which is always in ...movement. Best, Nicolas

great report, great watch

 
 By: AT : September 21st, 2009-16:56
I agree with you with the marking of the Jaeger logotype tough, not sure how I will live with it. Love the ceramic!

This is an experience to make, AT

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-13:41
Nobody else than you can know if you'll be able to live with. But trying it is, at least, a very interesting experience. Best, my friend. Nicolas

Another passionate and amazing post Nicolas

 
 By: Mostel : September 21st, 2009-22:02
The Navy Seals JLC's are very cool, but I just can't get past that minute hand which resembles, um....... one's um.... uh.....

Heeeeerm, Mostel....LOL [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-13:45
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Oh, Mostel...

 
 By: respo : September 23rd, 2009-11:39
...the AMVOX2s are much worse. LOL. respo

ROFLMAO, Respo.

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2009-11:45

Great article!

 
 By: dxboon : September 21st, 2009-23:23
It's nice to see this comparison of the Deep Sea Alarm and NSA. The influence of the vintage on the modern, is quite clear, and I enjoy visually experiencing the design continuity inherent in these two pieces from JLC. I look forward to seeing the NSA in ... 

Now the question is, Daos

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-13:49
Do I need a watch to get this distinctly masculine appeal? )) Seriously, I'm fascinated by all these links between Past and Present in the JLC watches. These influences helps us to better understand the current watches, their influences, their personality... 

Nicolas...

 
 By: dxboon : September 22nd, 2009-22:31
...with the NSA on your wrist you are almost too beastly and masculine! If you weren't already married, I'd be worried for all those unsuspecting Parisian girls. You are SO right about the addictive nature of dive watches. I really covet this one at the m...  

( Blush ) ...

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-22:43
LOL, Daos. As for the IWC Aquatimer, the only thing I don't like is the too greenish indexes... A pity, because this watch is really appealing. Once you saw the Vintage, it is difficult to forget it... ( Pic borrowed to Antiquorum ) Best, Sister. Nicolas...  

Ah, yes. That's a beauty!

 
 By: dxboon : September 22nd, 2009-22:53
My two favorite vintage IWCs are the ref. 812 and ref. 666 (The Devil's IWC! LOL!). It's no wonder IWC chose to create homages to these classic models. Daos

Mrs Daos has good taste, indeed.

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-23:17
IWC Ref 812 and 666? My favorite too, among the Vintage IWC! One day, maybe... Best, Nicolas

A really great report and review...

 
 By: E.J. : September 22nd, 2009-14:22
of a nice diver family of watches. I love these kind of post in which we can understand the current pieces sawing the past... the links between past and present, and the next coming future. A great work that I´ve enjoyed a lot. Thanks for it and for conti... 

Thanks, Hermano, for your kind words.

 
 By: amanico : September 22nd, 2009-22:08
There was an interpretation of the Polaris with the MC Memovox, now we have an interpretation of the Deep Sea Alarm. Logical, and ...Nice. As for the Deep Sea, can't agree more with you:: A superb watch! Best, my friend. Nicolas

HQ post! Thank you.

 
 By: VMM : September 23rd, 2009-01:45
Wow! That's some information. Great pics and review. Love this one: The "new" one also looks great specially on the NATO combo. Thanks Nico. Vte ...  

Gracias, Vicente

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2009-06:35
Happy to know that you enjoyed the post and the watches! Thanks for your nice comments. Best, Nicolas

Heyyyyyyyyy ...

 
 By: bimbeano : September 23rd, 2009-10:59
... Nicolas, his is a nice report. I especially love the NSA on that NATO but i'm not sure about it when you put it on your wrist. It looks a bit like the strap isn't thick enough. Think i'll have to try it myself when i pass by .. Cheers mon ami !!! Fili... 

When I get mine, Filip

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2009-11:44
I will immediately hunt a nice strap for it. The " Nato " is not bad, as well as the other strap, but I really think that things can be improved on this matter. A nice rugged and thick strap, for example. A nice Nato, too. But, the more important is that ... 

It seems ...

 
 By: bimbeano : September 23rd, 2009-11:54
... your in your "buying"-mood these last weeks .. El Bim

No, no, Bim

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2009-11:59
I try to calm down a bit, but some of the watches I ordered are arriving... Damn! Best, Nicolas

Great post and interesting follow up discussion -- as usual

 
 By: respo : September 23rd, 2009-11:50
Nicolas, thanks for posting this great review. It took me a few days to digest and enjoy it. Always love the photos of the watches and their innards. But best of all is the discussion your posts so often initiatie. Here, for instance, I really appreciate ... 

Having argumented opinions is really the most important, Respo

 
 By: amanico : September 23rd, 2009-13:55
We can agree or disagree, it doesn't matter. What matters, to me, is that we share our opinions in such a respectful ambience, which makes this website so interesting. It seems that Diving watches lead to share passionate exchanges, indeed. It is to all o... 

The resemblance is uncanny...

 
 By: AlexSunrise : September 23rd, 2009-17:56
Hi Nico, I am very happy to see JLC bringing back elements of their classic watches and pairing them with modern aesthetics. In the case of the NSA, the result is very appealing, and judging by your wristshot, it's presence on the wrist and wearing comfor... 

a superbly informative post as ever Nico.

 
 By: G99 : September 24th, 2009-11:45
i really like the memovox range and the master compressor dive alarms, but i do sort of agree that this is very similar to other models in their range. i will buy a polaris or MC alarm one day, but will have to be satisfied with my Revue Thommen for now. ... 

Well, Graham

 
 By: amanico : September 24th, 2009-21:28
There is without doubt an " air de famille " between the MC Diving GMT, and the MC Navy Seal Alarm, but there each have their own personality, and each house a different although friendly complication. It is a bit if you compared a GMT Rolex with a black ... 

It certainly will be a watch I will wear with great pleasure, Alex

 
 By: amanico : September 24th, 2009-21:18
I " felt " it very well, and the first positive feelings I had in Geneva at the beginning of this year is confirmed. I love its design, as if, in this case, JLC had intented to associate its roots with modernity. And the Alarm in a diving watch is not sil... 

Great review

 
 By: Ryan5446 : September 24th, 2009-11:28
nicely written my friend, especially the vintage heritage. Great watches, super pictures. Thanks for sharing

Hi, Ryan

 
 By: amanico : September 24th, 2009-22:02
A passionate world to discover, my friend. with some great hidden treasures. Thanks for your nice words, Best. Nicolas

I like all the improvements, but......

 
 By: watchme : September 24th, 2009-18:05
I must say that the NS Chrono GMT is the one for me. This would make only the 4th TRUE GMT chrono on the planet (after the CFB Patravi GMT, the Omega Broad Arrow GMT, and the Omega Chronoscope GMT). *By "true GMT" chrono, I mean one which can advance or r... 

Chrono GMT or Alarm

 
 By: amanico : September 24th, 2009-22:09
Interesting, Dean. Can't we consider the Alarm and the Chrono as the 2 most useful Complications in a diving watch? The GMT is not really useful in a diving watch, but it's a friendly complication for those who will ALSO wear it in other cricumstances. An... 

Nicolas

 
 By: Quan : September 25th, 2009-05:55
you fabolous on each of your great review, speechless and thank you very much

Many thanks, Nico . . .

 
 By: Dr No : September 25th, 2009-09:54
. . . I've just read and re-read your article, as there was so much information that I felt it necessary to give it an immediate second reading . . . cordially, Art

You're too kind, Art

 
 By: amanico : September 25th, 2009-11:40
I thought you had some issues to understand Borat's Language! Best, my friend. Nicolas

Dr No is fluent in . . .

 
 By: Dr No : September 26th, 2009-11:55
. . . Borat-speak! It's the wealth of detail that requires a second reading to absorb . . . warmest regards, Art

I've decided against the NSA once due to financial constraints.

 
 By: Ruckdee : September 27th, 2009-14:27
But now you have shaken my resolve. Unlike the re-issue Polaris, I believe the NSA is more wearable and capable of withstanding moderate abuse in daily life with the sapphire crystal. Very special watch. Ruckdee

There are 2 different things, Ruckdee

 
 By: amanico : September 27th, 2009-22:19
If the criteria is History, the Polaris can't be beat. If you want to use it as a toolwatch, then the NSA is the best. You can do a lot of things with the Polaris, but you have to be a bit prudent with the plexy. Best, Nicolas

Funny you should mention the plexy.

 
 By: Ruckdee : September 28th, 2009-19:57
I thought a Polaris with sapphire would be a sweet compromise. I was about to put my money on a Polaris but backed out on the deal with the local boutique only when I learned that the crystal is plexy. I appreciate its use for historical accuracy but its ... 

Amazing work

 
 By: daniel1203 : September 28th, 2009-08:24
Thank you amanico for this story......

Hey, Welcome here, Daniel!

 
 By: amanico : September 28th, 2009-08:33
A real pleasure to see you attending here. Thanks for your kind comment, my friend. Now that you know how to answer, I'm looking forward to see you more often, here! )) Best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2009-09-28 08:35:05

LE with the writing engraved on the crystal

 
 By: tripon : October 10th, 2009-10:03
I've found there should be a limited edition (Q183T47E) with the writing on the sapphire glass. This edition will be limited to 30 pieces and especially for the spanish jeweller . Why then JLC didn't released the NSA as it was supposed to be (like the pro... 

Because there was a technical problem

 
 By: amanico : October 10th, 2009-10:07
I spoke yesterday with the Manufacture about that, and there was a technical choice to do. It was very difficult to have an anti reflect + the engraving on the crystal at the same time. The final outcome was not as excellent as it would. So, JLC had to ma... 

Anti-reflective coating

 
 By: stitch : October 11th, 2009-10:56
Hi Nicolas, I recently saw a NSA in the flesh and it looked to me that JLC had used an anti-reflective coating on the crystal. This surprised me because, for some reason, I thought that JLC didn't believe in using these coatings. Is this a new thing or ha... 

Not on, but under the Crystal, indeed

 
 By: amanico : October 11th, 2009-11:06
JLC uses the anti reflective coating on a very few watches, indeed, and this NSA is quite an exception. Best, Nicolas