Master 8 Days Perpetual Calendar Skeleton, an in Depth Review of a piece of Art

Sep 15, 2008,12:36 PM
 



I'm very happy to introduce my new piece to you, a true piece of Art, the Master 8 Days Perpetual Calendar Skeleton.

All began at the 2007 SIHH, with the launch of some extrardinary watches, as the Extrem Lab, the Duo Metre, the Diving GMT, Chrono and Pro Geo, and ...last but not least, this very special Perpetual Calendar.

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As I wrote in a previous post, JLC worked from another great watch, the 8 Days Perpetual A. Lecoultre in platinum, a piece released in 2005, and its fabulous movement, the Cal 876.

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If you want to know more about the Antoine Lecoultre Perpetual, here's the review I made about it and some other JLC Perpetual Calendars:

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So, in 2007, at the Geneva fair, JLC presented me first the Star of the Year, the Extrem Lab, then the Duo Metre, and ended by showing me this Perpetual Calendar Skeleton.

It was a big emotion, for sure...I took a maximum of pics of the Beauty, macros, too, and began to think, to dream about it, and to analyze it...

At the end of this processus, I ended by buying it, a bit for the same reasons I went on the MMR, for its unbelievable beauty, and its high and impressive finish, and because I honestly think that this special Perpetual Calendar is at the level of the MMR.

1/ This is a piece made, conceived without compromises...

2 months ( !!! ) are necessary to work on the finish of a movement like this one.

The obsession of the details and of the finish is at this price.

JLC chose the motif of the planishere to conceive this Skeleton, a well known motif, as JLC used it in the past for the decoration and the symbol of another greatissime Cult Watch, the Géophysic.

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So the mainplates of the movement and of the dial are conceived, designed following this special shape:

Here, the mainplate of the case back:

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Housing the movement ( case back side ):

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And here dial side:

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Please note that these pics were taken during the SIHH in awfully light conditions and on a not finished movement.

Here's a pic taken in better light conditions, showing the very high level of finish:

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You will note with this last pic a gorgeous detail...The Latitude and the Longitude lines are ALL concentrating or focusing from an unique point, the Balance!

All the components of this movement contribute to the form of the planisphere, are designed in harmony with this special shape.

So you'll understand that all the parts of this movement were severly conceived, and realised, without compromise on the quality and the finish...

- The Screws are nickel plated,instead of being heat blued.

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- The Gear Wheels are nickel plated too, and rhodium finished.

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- Sunburst decorative motif on some pieces, like the hour wheel, and the ratchet wheel.

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- The covers of the 2 Barrels of the 8 Days Power Reserve are open worked to be designed as a star, which is also perfectly finished.

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- The plates and the mainplates are all ruthenium treated, as the ring, which looks aerian, like detached from the rest of the dial and the bezel.

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- The applied numerals and indexes are made in white gold.

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Indeed, all these sophistications contribute to achieve the impression of looking at, not to say...admiring a Masterpiece!

2/ A piece of Defy: The fine Art of the skeleton, applied to a Perpetual Calendar.

The Defy is to make it in a quite legible way, of course, but also to design it in a nice and not too busy way.

By the way, the problem of the legibility and of a busy design can be noticed on a lot of " normal ", I mean not skeleton PCs...

But on a skeleton pc, it may be even harder to read the informations about the date.

So, yes, this is a true Defy, as the other problem is to not touch the transparency and to to ruin the complex design of the skeleton with the perpetual calendar datas...

JLC opted for an elegant and original solution, as they use transparent discs to provide the informations offered by a complete Perpetual Calendar, and I may add ...a complete Perpetual Calendar, like the Day, the Date, the Month, the Year, the Moonphase, and, cherry on the cake, the 8 days Power Reserve indicator, and the " Danger Zone " symbolized by a Night and Day information, to avoid any change of the date between 9 PM and 3 AM.

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Despite these impressive and complete informations, the Perpetual Calendar datas are legible...

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JLC used the technic of the contrast to gain in legibility, with a lighter zone on which the transparent discs move on, and even thought at the hands, which are also skeleton!

Well, to be honest, reading the date in a glance is not evident, but is it possible with any Perpetual Calendar?

3/ General Thoughts and Datas.

This Perpetual Calendar is a high investment ...of quality, pleasure and satisfaction.

The proportions are ideal with a nice big / thick ratio...41,5mm / 11, 8 mm.

The first thing which " jumps to the eyes " is the Quality and the Harmony of the whole watch.

- Quality, it's evident!

The Sapphire Case Back is Glare Proof, which let show the magnificient work on the movement.

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The play of light, the shadows, the different levels and relief of this sculpture gives life to the movement, and are making it really captivating.

As for the dial, it's the same..The Sapphire is also glare proof, the skeleton work is awesome, and gives a superb result, in conjunction with the dispaching of all the datas of the Perpetual Calendar.

The impressive sum of infos of the Calendar is not disturbing the Artistic Esthetic of the rest of the dial, in a total symmetry.

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Look at the disposition of the 8 Days Indicator, The Night and day, the Moonphase, Date, Day and Months, all is geometrically located.

I appreciate a lot the use of transparent disks to provide these informations, as it contributes to the transparency of the whole dial, and it doesn't add another color.

So, you have a nice combo of grey tonalities, which gives a lot of class, and enhances the sensation of quality, IMO.

- Quality, but also Harmony:

As I wrote it, the proportions are ideal.

The thickness and the size are well thought on such a Jewel.

You can examine under all the angles, nothing is shocking, nothing disturbs the great appreciation you have of this watch...

Majestuous:

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Class, Dressy and Elegant:

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Under this angle, you'll see the only pusher which is used for the date correction.

This solution is friendly, and elegant.

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Friendly, because on most of the Perpetuals, you have 4 pushers, which are not coordinated.

This is a complex duty when you have to reset it.

Here, all is coordinated.

You will laught, but to avoid scrathces, I don't use the metal tool provided with the watch, but a wooden clean dent...

Try to use the pusher 90 times to set the date, and we'll see if you won't have problems with the tool sliding on the case...

There is even more simple and friendly with the IWC system, which set the date by the crown, that's true.

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You have an even better and more elaborated solution with the U.N Perpetual Calendar, which is, AFAIK, the only one to be set backwards and forwards...

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But, with the pusher solution, one is more firendly and more elegant.

4 pushers take a bit of the purity of the case, IMO.

Aerian, too:

Look at " 6 ", and " 3 "...

You will see the transparency of the skeleton, its lightness, its subtility...

Another awesome point!

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Harmony and coherence, because when you think about creating such a jewel, you have to make some esthetical choices, and the case of the Master in this size is the perfect one.

On the previous pics, you could see the nice curves of the case and lugs, the great proportions, the quite sensual design of the whole watch.

Should it be the same with a bigger case, like the one of the MMR?

The MMR is a concept watch, for me.

So, a big and quite thick case is correct, IMO.

I put these 2 watches side by side and tried to take some decent pics, which is ver difficult, a the MMR doesn't have an a glare proof sapphire, and the settings of the camera can't be adjusted when taking pics of both watches...

I tried to do my best, and here are the pics.

The interest of these pics is that it answers to a persistant question:

Are these watches similar?

NO!

If both are pieces of Art, As I previously said, the MMR is a Concept Watch, when the Perpetual Skeleton is more a Jewel.

In one siede, we have the Tradition ( Perpetual ), in another side, we have the Innovation ( MMR ).

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A smaller case is more appropriate to a Jewel, a bigger is nicer for a Concept Watch, IMO.

These pics also bring another demonstration:

There is a big difference between an open dial ( The MMR ) and a skeleton dial ( the Perpetual ).

The work, the time needed are not the same.

All is reworked, on a skeleton...I mean the mainplates, the plates, and all the other elements, while the open dial shows a nice work and finish, but is less hancrafted...

To enhance the beauty of this watch, I chose to change the strap...

The strap which naturally comes with this Perpetual is a grey one, very similar to the one of the MMR.

On the titanium MMR, this is a nice choice, because of the light grey case ( even if the titanium is polished, and has a lookalike SS case, the metal is a bit grey ).

The platinum is the whiter metal.

I found it nicer to put a navy blue crocodile strap, as JLC did for other platinum watches, as the 70eme, for example.

It contrasts nicely with the case, and the light grey ruthenium dial, and even gives some warmth!

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As we speak of combos, you know that this year, JLC released another version of the skeleton Perpetual, the Rose Gold one.

While the Platinum is limited to 100 pieces, the Rose gold is also limited, to celebrate the 175th Anniversary of the Manufacture, to 175 pieces.

I have to see it again in the flesh, bit it seems that the skeleton movement is a bit darker than on the platinum version, which is very nice, as the Dark Skeleton is contrasting very well with the Rose Gold Case.

Some said that this last Edition was more legible.

I'm not sure of that observation about the informations of the Calendar,even if the Hour seems more easy to read due to the contrast of the Rose Gold Hands / Dark skeleton.

Here are the few pics I have of the 1833 Limited Edition, to allow each of you to make your mind on this point...

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Sorry for the poor pics, but the light and the crowd at the SIHH were terrific...

The strap that comes with the watch is a Brown Crocodile, and the buckle is in rose Gold, which is better than the platinum version.

Better because, and this is really the weak point of this watch, the platinum version comes with a ..White Gold Buckle, while we should expect a platinum buckle on such a watch.

That is a reccurent problem on which JLC does have to work, as a watch is not only a movement, a case, and a dial, but also a strap and a buckle.

Wearing this watch is a pure pleasure, as the density of the platinum contributes to the pleasure of the wearer, the dimensions are obviously perfect and allow to use it in a dressy way, but also when in more casual occasions.

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So, to bring an end to this In Depht Review, I'd say that this Perpetual Calendar Skeleton is a very fine example of the Talentuous JLC Craftmanship, even if some details as the strap and the buckle are, once again, still to be improved.

JLC brought the demonstration that a Perpetual Calendar can also be an occasion to magnify Horology, and to reach the status of Art wqith a Time keeper which could be considered, IMO, as a Reference, in terms of Finish and Design.

In the last four years, JLC released some other exceptional Masterpieces like the Gyro I and II, the Reverso Tourbillon skeleton, the Duo Metre, and some others...

The next SIHH is now very close...

I just can't wait to see what JLC will offer to us, and how our insatiable curiosity will be fed!

With Admiration,

Nicolas
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Looking forward ...

 
 By: bimbeano : September 15th, 2008-13:32
.... to that masterclass Nicolas. Are you sure you are going to take it apart for that masterclass you promised me ? Looks pretty difficult to me ... LOL Now serious, that is a great review with some very nice pictures of a truly an amazing watch, congrat... 

I was stone.

 
 By: E.J. : September 15th, 2008-13:54
Impressive watch and impressive review. Thank you so much Nicolas; artwork like this do not usually seen every day. Greets. PD: I want one, my god.....!!!!!!!.

Impressed and enlightened

 
 By: AFK : September 15th, 2008-14:19
Nicolas, I'm really impressed, both for the watch and the review. But more than that, once again I'm impressed with your performance. Similar questions were asked before but since nobody got a convincing answer, I will not hesitate to ask: How many hours ... 

Another amazing post by an amazing person...

 
 By: matrix : September 15th, 2008-14:22
Your posts only get better and more educational my friend. Thanks for a well done report once again! It is my dream to one day own a perpetual calendar watch of a well known brand. Your post just made that decision that much easier for me! Always the best... 

As you could see on my previous posts, matrix

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:32
It's quite easy to find a perpetual calendar which will sing to you among all the JLC watches! From the sporty to the elegant, without forgetting the specatcular ones like the Gyro I, the Triptyque, and this one, you really have the embarass of the choice... 

Yes I do see Nicolas...

 
 By: matrix : September 17th, 2008-15:33
When the time comes for me to take a step in purchasing my very first perpetual calender piece, I will be sure to consult with your wisdom my friend. Very best for ya, Matrix.

I love that, Matrix!

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-11:57
Love what you wrote about the time to get a piece like the PC... You're absolutely true. A PC is a great piece, which deserves admiration, love, and which will give a lot of happyness. you obviously need nobody to make the good choice, my friend! best. Ni... 

Thank you Nicolas...

 
 By: matrix : September 18th, 2008-19:22

One sentence

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 15th, 2008-14:56
describes this watch the best and it is that this PC is « a true piece of Art» although I find the dial hectic and a hard to «read» but I think I need some live examination in Brtonigla after dozen of shots of Travarica + there is no better “brother” to M... 

Bravo Nicolas!

 
 By: BluNotte : September 15th, 2008-19:36
Merci beaucoup Nicolas for the wonderful in depth review of what has to be one of my MOST FAVOURITE MASTERPIECE IN THE WORLD OF HAUTE HORLOGERIE! My photographic skills, if i had my camera anyways, would be totally far off from yours In any case, we MUST ... 

Hi, Stephen!

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:43

Another great post Nicolas

 
 By: SJX : September 15th, 2008-20:24
Thanks! Is the watch readable in all conditions? From its design it looks like in certain lighting it might be hard to read. - SJX

Aaah, SJX

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:49

I don't want to read your posts again Nicolas!

 
 By: samwan : September 16th, 2008-00:55
Your posts constantly expose gaps and holes in my collection, and are doing irreparable damges to my wallet... Nonetheless, a truly exceptional piece and a brilliant post. Congratulations once again my friend! Sam

A pleasure, Sam! LOLOL

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:50

Bravo Nicolas

 
 By: gazoz : September 16th, 2008-04:20
Firstly big congrats to you on this marvelous acquisition truly fantastic piece which looks amazing and im sure is even better in real life, and once again a beautiful post that is spread out with great pictures and info so thankyou. Now on another note i... 

Wow, Garry

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:55

Two of the finest jewels in the JLC collection!

 
 By: fernando : September 16th, 2008-09:36
I would have had a hard time picking one out of those two exceptional and absolutely gorgeous timepieces..........but you made it easy - you got both! Major congrats and once again an amazing review.Thank you for making us feel somewhat...inadequate. LOL ... 

LOL, Fernando!

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-08:58

Superb review as always Nicolas....

 
 By: sclamb : September 16th, 2008-12:21
You are truly blessed to have such fine watches and such fine taste. Another enjoyable review. Wear it in very good health my friend. Simon

Thanks, simon

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-09:01

Congratulations Nicholas..

 
 By: grandcomplication : September 16th, 2008-19:23
What a magnificent piece...enjoy it! Regards, Chris

A pleasure, Craig!

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-09:07

Big congrats Nicolas....

 
 By: RT : September 17th, 2008-03:55
on getting such a special piece and thanks very much for all the photos. I espeically love the wristshots at the very end; they really do showcase the beauty of the skeleton works in a natural setting. Just like the MMR, the skeleton PC has a very "tech" ... 

Hi Roger

 
 By: amanico : September 17th, 2008-09:12

Nicolas, Nicolas...

 
 By: marcelo : September 17th, 2008-17:11
I really would like to have the opportunity of seeing these pieces – or, at least, one of them – “in the flesh”. The only problem would be giving it back to the salesperson, or its owner. So, BE CAREFUL!!! Best regards, Marcelo

LOL, Marcelo

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-05:30
Giving it back ( or not ) to the Sales Person is ok... Not giving back to its owner, now that's a problem!!! LOL Marcelo, you're a passionate Bad Boy...LOL Best, my friend. Nicolas PS: If you know someone who owns a Gyro II, maybe we could arrange somethi... 

I'll do my best!

 
 By: marcelo : September 18th, 2008-06:57
I’m heading to Montreal this Saturday and will try to find this lucky someone there – chances are much bigger than in Belo Horizonte If I succeed I’ll let you know... LOLOLOLOLOL!!! All the best! Marcelo This message has been edited by marcelo on 2008-09-... 

ROFL, Marcelo!

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-07:11

A long wait review but worth every seconds.

 
 By: Krieng : September 18th, 2008-01:38
Great in depth review. Your post just endanger to my greediness. LoL Thanks for all write up and great pics. Cheers

Seen it in

 
 By: Quan : September 18th, 2008-06:33
flesh and been stunned, with you master class description make me regretted not to grab the piece then thanks my fren

It is always time, Quan

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-11:46

Speechless......

 
 By: BHK9 : September 18th, 2008-09:10
Hi Nicolas, Well......very good read.You have prepared a nice and neat review.Congrats!!! I will definately catch the rose gold jubliee 175th collection perpetual calender. thanks......... BHK9

Congratulations Nico

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 18th, 2008-09:57
what a wonderful watch, congratulations my friend. And what a set you have now. Im shure you will hold on to them - I think they will be JLC classics in time. Thanks for a wonderful presentation also, Ive only had time to read it very quickly but will com... 

Hi, COD!

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-11:22

Really, BHK9?

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-12:00
Wow, I'm happy to know that, even if I'm not really surprised, as you're the King of PCs! This one is very high in terms of esthetic, Art, and ..Horology. We should organize a PC GTG, my friend! I' m impatient to see yours! Best, my friend. Nicolas

HJLC just doesnt take a break...

 
 By: rijowysock : September 18th, 2008-14:01
always great pieces, year after year

Correct, Riley,

 
 By: amanico : September 18th, 2008-22:58

WOW...great pics of a real stunner. I'm happy it was worth the (long) wait for you...

 
 By: eric_s : September 19th, 2008-08:47
congrats again Nicolas... Can't wait to see what JLC will come up with next...January is not far off....

Thanks, Eric

 
 By: amanico : September 19th, 2008-11:56

Truely spectecular mon ami!

 
 By: Jester : September 20th, 2008-07:16
I was so set on waiting for the 175th anniversary RG version of the QP squelette but reading your excellent review almost changed my mind! It's so true this watch would be a fantastic compliment to the MMR Squelette. Still crossing my fingers that I'll be...