I am not positive, but I think...

Feb 11, 2010,09:51 AM
 


as MW mentioned the crown on the 233 does not stop, however with the power reserve indicator you can tell when the watch is fully wound. Also, the 233 emits a faint clicking sound letting you know that the watch is fully wound as well. I would assume that this is standard on the P2002 movement and that the 339 will have the same faint click letting the owner know that the watch is fully wound. I personally love the sound of winding all of my my watches and hold my 233 up to my ear and wait for the click to let me know that the watch is fully wound rather than looking at the PR indicator.


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Question: How many turns to full wind the 8 days PR

 
 By: patrickh : February 9th, 2010-04:46
models: - JLC - P2002 - P2004 Same feeling? Thanks, Patrickh

about 200 turns

 
 By: panerai232 : February 9th, 2010-07:37
about 200 turns on the 2002 movement. about 50 turns on JLC. JLC movement is far superior. NO questions there

50 to 60 turns for the JLC movement on the 190/ 197/ 198/ 208.

 
 By: amanico : February 9th, 2010-08:21
I never touched a P 2002, so I can't tell you... Best, Nicolas

200 turns on a P.2002? Is this correct? Can a PAM233 owner verify this?

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 9th, 2010-10:04
200 turns sounds way too much IMO. - AT

I can confirm

 
 By: Bill : February 9th, 2010-11:25
I just fully wound my 233 and yes it was actually 200 turns. I also know it lasts more than 8 days closer 9+. Will check and get back to you on the jlc 8 days movement. Bill

Wow 200 turns. Thanks for the confirm! [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 9th, 2010-11:44
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I would wait for reconfirmation

 
 By: Bill : February 9th, 2010-11:49
It may be I wind funny but I did wind both back to back. Bill

My experience with my 233

 
 By: lagauvulin16 : February 10th, 2010-12:23
I seem to have a completely different experience with my 233 and I am sure it is probably because we all wind our watches a bit differently in terms of full turns, half turns, etc. Anyway, the last two times I wound my PAM 233, my results were as follows:... 

The qualifier in my case is simply

 
 By: Bill : February 10th, 2010-14:29
The comparison of the 233 and the 190 wound by me one after the other so the number or turns can easily vary from one user to the other but in my case same person yeilding a result that was easily double the turns regardless of whether it was 100 full pro... 

Thanks Bill...

 
 By: lagauvulin16 : February 10th, 2010-20:24
that completely makes sense. I actually just called my brother who has a 233 as well. He said he usually winds his 233 approximately 180 or so times. So, I guess it really is nearer your results. I am curious now, I can't wait until this runs down in the ... 

I can also confirm the JLC 8 days in the 190

 
 By: Bill : February 9th, 2010-11:36
I was closer to 80-90 turns than it was to 60 turns. It was a bit hard to judge either as I used the visual indicator rather than wind the watch the the crown came loose in my hand so this can account for some of the deviation. Both wound by me at the sam... 

The 190 movement also has an autonmy of 10 days, Bill

 
 By: amanico : February 9th, 2010-11:39
Mine was around 9 Days, and and 15 hours! Best, Nicolas

I never paid attention to that detail. Nice to know

 
 By: Bill : February 9th, 2010-11:43
I just heard this on the Pam 233. I alos happy with the JLC Master 8 days so with a few minutes of winding I am set ffor the whole month LOL. Bill

Question about the P2002/7 in the 339

 
 By: domingo chavez : February 10th, 2010-07:45
I own a 190. Because of the slipping flange ("bride glissante" in french) of the JLC 877 caliber, you can endless wind the watch. That's why the power reserve indicator at the back is very helpful to know whether the watch is fully winded or not. I wanted... 

Can any P.200X owners answer this question?

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 10th, 2010-16:02
When you manually wind the watch, does the crown stop when fully wound? (this is what I would guess) Or can you keep winding it like the JLC 877 caliber domingo states in the above post? Cheers, Anthony

re: PAM 233

 
 By: DRMW : February 10th, 2010-18:04
FYI, when fully wound the crown does not stop. Hope this helps. -MW

K thanks. Learned something new today! [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 10th, 2010-18:13
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That was not the anwser I was expecting.

 
 By: domingo chavez : February 10th, 2010-22:00
Thank you for your answer. In consequence of this, can anyone tell how will I know that my 339 is fully wound ? Nicolas

I am not positive, but I think...

 
 By: lagauvulin16 : February 11th, 2010-09:51
as MW mentioned the crown on the 233 does not stop, however with the power reserve indicator you can tell when the watch is fully wound. Also, the 233 emits a faint clicking sound letting you know that the watch is fully wound as well. I would assume that... 

To add some excitement here - IWC Big Pilot 8 days

 
 By: Bill : February 11th, 2010-10:54
I just I figured I should check one more for the mix. And the results. With my turns i was just over 160 for the big Pilot. So it would appear that the 233 and the Big Pilot are pretty close in comparison to the JLC. Hope this sheds some light. Bill

Just gave my 190 the full wind.

 
 By: Davo : February 11th, 2010-13:23
I counted 67 turns. And I enjoyed every turn of the crown too.

And for the 8 days angelus? Someone could give an answer?

 
 By: patrickh : February 12th, 2010-02:31
Thanks for your input. I am still waiting the stop of my 190 to participate. Cheers, Patrickh

I need another week for mine to wind down

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 13th, 2010-13:53
I think it'll be less than 100 turns for me (my turns are full turns) but we'll see in a week. - AT

It took me 94 full turns to wind my PAM203 Angelus [nt]

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : February 24th, 2010-09:34
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between 80 and 100 turns for my PAM268

 
 By: bgillis : March 25th, 2010-05:37
I bought my first PAM two weeks ago: a Radiomir 8 Days Power Reserve, aka PAM268. This PAM has a P2002/3 manufacture caliber. Mine is numbered 226/400, L serie. My watch needs between 80 and 100 turns to be fully wound. So I'm far from previous results (a... 

Thanks Bertrand and congratulations for your new baby

 
 By: patrickh : March 25th, 2010-05:46
I suppose you made FULL turns to wind your 268. Maybe some made half turn and then count 2 times more as it is easier to wind the calibre on a Radiomir than a Luminor due to the crown protection. Best, Patrickh