Let me introduce you a marvellous watch: The Deep Sea Alarm Europe.

Jul 11, 2009,06:11 AM
 


I won't make once again a review on the Deep Sea Alarm, as you can already read it here:

jlc.watchprosite.com

I will mainly focuse on the European version of this watch ( Ref E 857 ), now that I was able to add it in my collection.

This is indeed a very rare bird, as on the 1061 pieces made from 1959 to 1961, only 150 / 200 Deep Sea Alarm Europe were made, and I don't now how many are still alive, these days.

What is surprising is that the same watch can get such a different personality, depending on the version:



While on the american model, the indexes are of the same lenght, the 5 minutes indexes being thicker than the others, on the European version, the long, thin triangle shaped 5 minutes indexes are luminous ( which is strangely not the case on the US ),

On the european version, there is no writing on the alarm disk, which gives a cleaner, more elegant look to the watch, while the US is more " macho ", obviously.

On both versions, I noticed that the non moving part of the dial may somtimes show a very nice chocolate brown patina, which is the case on my European D.S.A.

As you can see on the pic above, these 2 models have different hands, spade shaped on the US, while the European has a pair of pointed skeleton, which is not characteristic, because each of these models can receive spade or pointed skeleton hands.

Here a few macros of the European D.S.A dial, to enhance the borwn chocolate patina, and the nice look of the alarm disk:











The case back on the 2 versions has the same nice engraving: A Diver in action...





... Which houses the first Automatic Alarm movement in the world: The Cal 815, signed Jaeger Lecoultre on the European, and Lecoultre on the American:



The story says that the Deep Sea Alarm was born from Mr Lowe's will, who was the Lecoultre Inc. President in New York.

But the funny thing is that the Deep Sea Alarm didn't have glowing indexes ( except on the European version ), nor a turning bezel ( both versions )... Which is a bit curious for a diving watch.

But it was the very first JLC Diving watch, and the first step from La Grande Maison in the Diving world.

These flaws have been corrected one year after the end of the life of the Deep Sea Alarm, when JLC worked on a watch which will become a Cult Watch: The Polaris, but this is another story...

50 Years after its birth, what we can say about the Deep Sea Alarm is that even if it has big flaws for a Diving watch, it is a superb watch, very elegant, enjoying a timeless design:







Its elegance is not only due to its dial, but also to its perfect volumes, not too big, nor too thick, even nowadays, with a 39 mm diameter case.





All these impressions are confirmed once the watch on the wrist, indeed:



Curiously, it has more presnece on the wrist than a Rolex Sub, even a modern one with a diameter of 40 mm.

These D.S.A has always lived in the shadow of the Polaris, and are of course much less known, but they are not less elegant and appealing!

Hope you will enjoy this reading.

Best to all.

Nicolas

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Really nice presentation...impressive and timeless watch.

 
 By: E.J. : July 11th, 2009-06:49
Another great hunt my dear Indiana Jones hermano... Is impressive admire the great vintage treasures that you hunt. Thanks for the reading and for the awesome pics, is a pleasure see the two brothers side by side. In my case I love both, but I must admit ... 

you know this feeling, Emilio

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-13:23
When you hunt for a long time a piece, and that you finally are able to put it on your wrist... That's my story with this D.S.A Europe... 7 Years since the first moment I saw it... But the wait is part of the pleasure, indeed! Best, and thanks, my friend;... 

Congrats Nicolas ! [nt]

 
 By: foullis : July 11th, 2009-07:37
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Thanks, Milan.

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-13:24

Timeless indeed...

 
 By: nwp627 : July 11th, 2009-08:16
...in design if not entirely in application. One could almost see them as divers watches designed by those who did not dive, but then came the Polaris and all was right with the world. N

Perfectly summed, Neil

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-13:27
That's exactly the point. The other very good thing is that there is an obvious link between thses old ladies and the modern JLC Diving watches, aesthetically speaking. Tradition...And Innovation. Best, Nicolas

What a great catch!

 
 By: AlexSunrise : July 11th, 2009-11:29
Congratulations on a magnificent find, Nico! Indeed it is a great all around watch, and I am happy JLC took a lot of design elements from it to come up with the Navy Seals Alarm. Hopefully, this will be an indication that future JLC Dive watches will be f... 

Wow, Alex, I just answered to Neil with the same words!

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-13:35
I'm preparing a topic about the Navy Seals Alarm and its aesthetical influences... Will post in in September, as I have too many things to end, before. And this is also a lot of work to do something clear and complete. The Deep Sea Alarm is a magnificient... 

Look forward on reading your review, Nico.

 
 By: AlexSunrise : July 13th, 2009-06:47
I am sure it will provide us with great insight and information on where might JLC be headed in terms of design. Thank you and have a great week, Alejandro

Will do, Alex

 
 By: amanico : July 13th, 2009-11:03
Just need the time to grab a N.S.A and to take some nice pics of it, to illustrate the comparison between these 2 watches. Best, my friend. Nicolas

This watch is gorgeous!

 
 By: dxboon : July 11th, 2009-18:03
The 39 mm size, clean dial, and dial/crystal/case proportions are perfection. I prefer the indices on the Euro version over the batons on the US one. The US dial is attractive and has many of its own merits, but in comparison with the Euro DSA it seems bu... 

Well, Daos, my case is desesperate, so

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-23:10
I don't have a favourite among these 2... Wow, your cousin has great taste, Daos! This is one of the nicest compliment a watch could receive, indeed. Best, and thanks, Sister. Nicolas

A Contact for the battery?

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-23:01
I viewed all rhe 815 and 825 I could find and I saw this iwre in most of them... Will ask to a watchmaker, because I have no idea at all... Good question! Best, Nicolas

The wire....

 
 By: BDLJ : July 12th, 2009-21:12
...looks like it is attached to the click for the bumper-winding system. Another great watch, Nico. Much prefer the European version.

Thanks, Ben

 
 By: amanico : July 13th, 2009-11:04
Will have to ask to a JLC Watchmaker, indeed. Thanks for your input, my friend. Best, Nicolas

Re: what for the love is this wire

 
 By: 1000km : July 13th, 2009-20:22
The wire bothers me too. It looks distinctly like a bodge.

It is current on the 815 / 825

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-00:57
Hi, I checked on others Cal 815 / 825, and this " wire " is always there. Best, Nicolas

A bodge?

 
 By: BDLJ : July 15th, 2009-00:13
As I posted above, it appears to be the spring for the winding ratchet click. These bumpers are unidirectional winding. So that wire keeps tension on the click so the mainspring doesn't unwind on the return swing of the bumper. I don't think it's a bodge ... 

Awesome pair!

 
 By: respo : July 11th, 2009-20:22
Just back from a few days away to find this lovely post on he DSA pair. Congratulations on finding the European sister to the American. Not sure which one is better looking, but for sure both are really interesting. I agree, that knowing the history, stre... 

Yes, Respo

 
 By: amanico : July 11th, 2009-23:08
Both are fantastic watches! I'm still hunting 3 JLC Vintage Diving watches, and among them, one which is a dream ( or maybe a nightmare, because I missed it a bit more than one year ago for a few hours...) But these D.S.A were very high on my Wish / Hunti... 

Marvellous indeed Nicolas!

 
 By: =RWK= : July 12th, 2009-02:26
Thanks for sharing. You always have something interesting for us! I like your choice of strap too. Best, -- Richard.

The JLC Vintage world is captivating, Richard.

 
 By: amanico : July 13th, 2009-11:07
And it is easy to get the bug.... Once you dive in... As for the strap, the Tropic is one of the 2 which cae with the Deep Sea Alarm ( the other being the SS Bracelet ). Thanks for your nice words, my friend. Best Nicolas

Asian model?

 
 By: FanFrancisco : July 12th, 2009-02:45
thanks Nico for the interesting post. after reading this, got an instant question in mind, we are always talking some watches specially designed for american and european markets, what about any watch model designed for other markets, e.g asian? best, ste... 

Not aware of a Vintage JLC dedicated just for Asia

 
 By: amanico : July 13th, 2009-11:08
But this is an interesting question, my friend. Will have to ask, and to check. Best, Stefan, Nicolas

Awesome pair

 
 By: terenceho : July 12th, 2009-10:20
Getting one of them is not easy. Getting both of them are unreal ....

Yes, unreal is the right word, Terence.

 
 By: amanico : July 13th, 2009-11:10
That's exactly what I felt when I finally got this euopean D.S.A, and when I saw these 2 side by side. You certainly imagine my excitement... Best, and thanks, Nicolas

Congratulations....

 
 By: MiniCooper : July 12th, 2009-17:21
on a fine acquisition. A marvel especially since it took you seven years to get it. Personally I prefer the euro version with its cleaner look. it is weird about the non-turning bezel- do you have any idea why, or is it just that JLC did not think about i... 

That's the charm of " Firsts ", Pink Panther

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-01:01
Well, the reglementation was not the same at this moment, while nowadays, the rules, the definition of a Diving watch is very ...severe. In 1961, the Deep Sea Alarm was dead, just 2 years after its birth, and just one year after, JLC worked on ...The Pola... 

Beautiful watches, thanks Nicolas

 
 By: ling5hk : July 13th, 2009-16:11
However, I am not sure about the purpose of alarm under the water. Is it for reminding the diver to get out of the water? Can the diver hear the alarm strike under the water? Regards Ling

No, Ling

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-01:04
I'm not sure that the Diver can hear the alarm under the water, but what I'm sure of, is that he was abmle to feel the vibrations when the alarm rings. On the Polaris, JLC enhanced this point with a special case back, which presents 16 holes. The sound on... 

I prefer the European version N...

 
 By: matrix : July 14th, 2009-08:38
And that happens to be true with me with just about everything. Including women lol... Thanks for the education my freind and b well, Matrix.

yet another excellent review of a JLC classic

 
 By: G99 : July 14th, 2009-13:46
a brilliant looking compressor Nico. is that it now, do you have the whole lot or are there more out there to find and hunt for? but 7 years hunting! i couldnt cope with that. it works the other way for me. i know what i want and when i'm not looking they... 

This is not a super compressor watch, Graham

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-14:28
This D.S.A is not a super compressor watch, my friend. On JLC super compressor watches I'd say 2. The Polaris, and the Master Mariner Deep Sea. I still have ot find 3, and my JLC thema will be closed: A Jaeger Diving, a Polaris 65 original, and a Diving C... 

Oh, so you are looking for an original...

 
 By: respo : July 14th, 2009-14:34
Polaris '65. I do hope you find one soon, but I will be quite jealous. The only thing better than the Tribute. Best of luck on the hunt my friend. respo

Oooh yes, Respo

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-14:36
But it is a long time I hunt this Beast. I missed one, last year, for less than an hour... This would be a " royal " way to close this thema, don't you tink? Thans for the good wishes, my friend. Fingers crossed! Best, Nicolas

oops....

 
 By: MiniCooper : July 14th, 2009-17:52
I did not see this post before I wrote mine.... Bad luck with your timing.... but, on the other hand it might prove to be good luck as you might find another one in a better condition- I hope that you do Cheers

I know of one 65' FS

 
 By: Clavi : July 15th, 2009-02:06
I know of a Polaris '65 (the original that is), which is for sale now if you want to close the theme soon (But I guess you know it too... if not, PM)

Respo.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : July 14th, 2009-17:53
I hope that you get a Polaris for your son pretty soon lol Cheers

I am certain....

 
 By: MiniCooper : July 14th, 2009-17:49
my friend, that even after you get these three you will be enticed by yet another JLC in the future.... Good luck getting the vintage Polaris, I guess that it would be a task... although I am certain that you will succeed Cheers

Well, Pink Panther, certain I don't know,

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-21:23
But as for the other watches, time and patience ...and good connections will certainly help. Best, and thanks for the good wishes! Nicolas

LOL, Neil

 
 By: amanico : July 14th, 2009-14:29
Pamela Anderson apart; of course! Borat.