Jaeger-Lecoultre SIHH 2015: First pictures and impressions on the Master Grande Tradition

Mar 16, 2015,00:00 AM
 



An interesting offer from this year certainly is this Master Grande Tradition Minute Repeater.

Interesting, because this watch has, undisputably, some nice aesthetical virtues, and because it houses a new generation of minute repeaters movement.

1/ The aesthetics:

Jaeger Lecoultre gave to this watch a new case, or more precisely, a new size... 39 mm, and 12, 1 mm high.

Which is, in my opinion, a daring but smart move.

Daring, because some may think that 39 mm is a tad small. Smart, because in this diameter, I find that the proportions of the case are very elegant. I always wanted to see a thinner MGT case, it is now done, and I am quite happy with the visual outcome, even if I think that The Grande Maison could do it slimmer, one or two millimeters slimmer.



This watch is a blend of polished and brushed parts. Polished, the lugs and the concave bezel, while the side of the case is brushed. Another pleasant detail to the eye. You certainly noticed that the Master Grande Tradition Line saw its case reworked, for more elegance. The Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication, despite its bigger dimension, received these changes.

The 2015 Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication:



At the contrary of what you can think when you see the pictures, the minute repeater is not activated through a conventional trigger, but through a pusher, shaped as a trigger.



That solution offers two advantages:

- It is more pleasant to use than the trigger.

- It is a safer way to activate the minute repeater. Once the minute repeater is working, you cannot start it again through the pusher. You have no other choice than waiting for the minute repeater, as it is not possible to re initiate it.

The dial is silver grained, and its hour markers are applied, in gold. The shape of these hours markers first appeared as a " Jubilé " signature in the Master Ultra Thin 39 Jubilé, or in the Master Grande Tradition Tourbillon Cylindrique Perpetual Calendar Jubilé.



The Dauphine hands receive a special treatment: They are facetted. One side is polished, the other is brushed.

The big Small Seconds subdial contributes to the balance of the dial. I am not sure the big gold circle surrounding it was necessary, though.



So, aestheticaly speaking, this Master Grande Tradition is very classic, yes, but it is elegant, understated, and has a lot of charm.

Well done, in my opinion. With one reserve...I really don't like the " plaque " located between 23 and 29 minutes. But I guess it is due to the fact that the gongs, welded to the sapphire, are located here.

Therefore, you will keep in mind that the Watch, took in picture, was a prototype, and that the plaque was not bearing any wording.

As you can see on the first picture of this article, there is now a wording " sonnerie ".



2/ The movement:

The Cal 942 is not really a new movement, as we first saw it in the very recent Rendez Vous Ivy Minute Repeater, unveiled in Hong Kong, during the Watches and Wonders Fair, in September 2014.

So, the Master Grande Tradition Minute Repeater is the second Watch to house it.

The Cal 942 is a 26 mm big, 7, 17 m thick movement, made of 437 parts, beating at 28 800 alternances per hour, and offering a power reserve of 40 hours.

While the full gold rotor is nicely designed and decorated, I feel that the movement decoration is not a the same level than the rest of the watch, and I regret we don't have something more special, in terms of finishings.





Therefore, the choice of an automatic movement for this Master Grande Tradition, for the Rendez Vous Ivy Minute Repeater, and for the Hybris Mechanica 11 raises a question: Is this the beginning of the automatic movements reign?

The Rendez Vous Ivy Minute Repeater:





The Hybris Mechanica 11:



Anyway, the minute repeater mechanism / system is well known and experienced:

You will find the Trebuchet hammers which were inaugurated with the Hybris Mechanica à Grande Sonnerie, in 2009, the Crystal gongs with a square section, welded to the sapphire used since 2005 in the Master Minute Repeater.

The Hybris Mechanica à Grande Sonnerie:



The Master Minute Repeater:



One information I didn't have, but which is important, is that the regulator operates at 20 Db, which is impressively silent, and important for a minute repeater. Those of us who heard minute repeaters are well aware that the noise of the regulator can ruin the quality of the sound. Good point there, then.

I heard this Minute Repeater as a prototype, so I will not give a definitive judgement. I will just say that, for now, the sound is loud enough, but I find it a bit too agressive. I discussed that point with the watchmakers in charge of this Master Grande Tradition, and they told me that they were still working on the settings. Definitive judgements on the sound with the definitive watch, then.

So, to conclude, I would say that I am very pleased with the aesthetics of this new Master Grande Tradition, I have no doubt that it will sound nicely, but I regret the choice of an automatic movement.

Looking forward to reading your comments and thoughts,

Best.

Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2015-03-16 00:01:51 This message has been edited by amanico on 2015-03-20 23:31:41


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Interesting, thank you for the review.

 
 By: dr.kol : March 16th, 2015-01:36
If I compare this watch to i.e. Patek 5078P or the relatively new VC Minute Repeater, it is quite far away. Everything depends of course on the price. A minute Repeater is such a great and rare complication that one would expect plain perfection when the ... 

I like the case a lot, as well as the dial, I am more reserved on the movement.

 
 By: amanico : March 16th, 2015-10:46
Not mechanically, but aesthetically. Best, Nicolas

A nice complete presentation Nicolas

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 16th, 2015-03:02
I must say I like the overall look of this MGT, especially the markings, the hands and the very nice white dial finish we already saw on other JLCs. There are just 3 things I would have liked to be different: . The "plaque" which looks a little too big. Y... 

Agreed on the plaque and the pusher. Smaller would have been better in both cases.

 
 By: amanico : March 16th, 2015-10:49
I am not sure about the movement. For me, a Minute Repeater is magic, and the movement should match with that magic spirit. The HM 11 has an interesting and nice movement. This one doesn't reach that level of finish. Not because it is automatic, just beca... 

Very nice write-up! Will it be "affordable"?

 
 By: jmpTT : March 16th, 2015-10:44
The combination of clean aesthetics and frosted dial is very appealing. The base movement looks like it shares quite a bit in common with the accessible pieces in the Master series. Given JLC's capabilities, there's no doubt the movement could be finished... 

A couple of reservations

 
 By: jml_watches : March 16th, 2015-13:34
Hi I think I'm in agreement with other comments made earlier. The dial is wonderful, though agree about the gold ring around the small seconds. The texture of the dial adds real depth and I really like the restraint of the markers. I also agree with you w... 

Interesting move....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : March 16th, 2015-15:14
I get a Geophysic vibe from this one! :) The case, the dial..... But it is not a perfect match, just resembling details... I prefer the trigger before the pusher for sure. Too bad they put the gold plate at 5... Really like what I see, looking forward to ... 

Two interesting things to discuss, IMO...

 
 By: amanico : March 16th, 2015-15:54
The size, which is great, and the finish of the automatic problem, which is more discutable. A conversation piece... ;) Best, Blomman, and thanks for your feedback. Nicolas

Nicholas, thanks for your excellent review. I like the basic look

 
 By: kpk : March 17th, 2015-01:02
of the dial. I often wonder why JLC cannot make time only pieces with such a dial. Because, apart from the Reverso series, I find most of JLC Master series very aesthetically unappealing. This might be the next gen MR movement for JLC, but I find the acti... 

Agreed that the pusher may have been nicer if smaller.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2015-02:25
If you love this dial, have a look at the MUT 39 Jubilé. You will adore it. + the case is top. As for MRs in general, I think the Master Minute Repeater has a lot of Hybris Mechanica 11. As well as the MGT Grande Complication whose sound is one of the be... 

Sorry to be a party pooper..

 
 By: moc : March 17th, 2015-03:04
but I really can t find much excitement in this watch. JLC daring attitude and bravery disappeared completely here,in this middle of the road lukewarm guts....... The case is the only decent thing,but that plaque...please.... I won t even mention the bac... 

You don't have to be sorry, Mo.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2015-03:35
The great idea is the small case. The dial is ok. But the automatic movement... Deginitely not my cup of tea. Like you, I think that a minute repeater deserves more, in terms of finishings. I will launch a thread on that matter, by the way. Best, Nicolas

Really love the elegance and proportions of this one

 
 By: emcquillan : March 17th, 2015-07:55
I prefer white metal with only a few exceptions and this piece might be one of them. The watch exudes classic simplicity aesthetically and the case 39 x 12 is lovely. I'd really welcome the opportunity to see this is person. The movement is very nice inde... 

We'll discuss the movement more in depth, when I have an opportunity to better see it.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2015-08:43
Still, I would have preferred something else to serve the purpose of such a nice Watch and sophisticated complication. Thanks for your feedback, Emcquillan. Nicolas

Thank-you, Nico, for the detailed write-up and

 
 By: sery.vlk : March 17th, 2015-11:03
very valuable photos! It seems the movement is based on the derivation of cal. 899 - cal. 896 with the small second. Rather then commenting its decoration (well, we do not see the standard circular grinding, perhaps we would see better anglage), let me as... 

That possibility came to my mind. I will have to check when I am at the Manufacture.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2015-11:52
Interesting question! As for the sound volume with the former ones, I am waiting to find a definitive specimen, it will be fairer to proceed this way. I will! Best, Nicolas

Interesting piece...mixed feelings on this one...

 
 By: vitalsigns : March 17th, 2015-20:31
Gorgeous case and proportions--very glad JLC didn't make this an ultra thin (even if it was possible) I like what I think would be the wrist presence here...a sane 39mm but some thickness, in keeping with the significance of the piece as a high complicati... 

The movement is the part which most focuses our attention, indeed.

 
 By: amanico : March 18th, 2015-00:20
Which will lead me to post a topic about automatic and manual movements quite soon. How can I say it in good English? The risk with such a movement is to banalize such a prestigious complication? I expected more in terms of finish. As for the plaque, you ...